Danva Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Hello all and Happy Holidays, I see that Dawson Precision is selling aluminium shock buffs and have'nt heard of them before. Are they in use by many shooters and do they work or is this a gadget for your gun? Danva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I am using an aluminum shock buff in my p16 Para. It has a very positive feel and lasts a lot longer than the plastic buffs. It's hard to describe the difference, but it has made me a little faster with the gun just feeling more positive. By the way, I just made my own out of aluminum bar stock. It's not very hard with a dremel and a belt sander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Doesn't this defeat the purpose/effectiveness of a shock buff somewhat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I think the alum. shock buff is just a slide travel reducer and not much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I've been shooting the past 2 or so weeks with a Dawson aluminum buff in my open gun and I do not notice any difference between it and the Red Buff I usually use, except that it takes a gun than ran 100% all season and makes it a little finicky. I think this is due to the thickness of the Dawson aluminum buff (0.150" I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I added one to my shorty. My shorty is a true commander slide. The first thing is you have to make sure your slide is still cycling the full stroke. As far as feel. I really like the feel of the gun with the aluminum buff compared to without. When I first built the shorty it felt extremely violent. I added the buff and modified the slide a little bit to get the full stroke and now it feels very nice. Its almost like comparing a dead blow hammer to a normal hammer. ON my full size gun I have been running regular buffs. I tried one of the aluminum on that and it really made no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17raider Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Doesn't this defeat the purpose/effectiveness of a shock buff somewhat? That's what I thought. So anyone know how these are supposed to "cushion" the impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cking Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Theory is the alum is softer, than steel of frame and slide, true, but I don't see it as being elastic, which means it will deform and stay that way. Probably better than nothing but not an improvement over the hard plastic buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 it does not really deform. At least mine hasn't 2k through it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision40 Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 That's what I thought. So anyone know how these are supposed to "cushion" the impact? I talked with Dawson Precision at the Natl's about these and was told that the Aluminum buffs provide a "softer" metal to metal contact. Aluminum on steel is softer than steel on steel. That's how I understood it. Makes sence to me, but it definitely shortens the stroke by 1/8" or however thick they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I actually cut into the slide a little towards the recess and reverse plug area to allow for the full slide travel. This was very important since I have a true comander slide. If you want I will put some pics up tommorow of what I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 "Doesn't this defeat the purpose/effectiveness of a shock buff somewhat?" Uh, isn't the whole point to SOFTEN the blows...?... I just don't see the logic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerwas Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I agree, the shock buff material is supposed to be nylon/rubber soft, not aluminum hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Well, the demonstration from Dawson goes sort of like this: Set buff-o-choice on an anvil. Take a medium to light-weight hammer and smack the buff while holding the hammer loosely at the tail end of the handle so it can recoil back up. Some buffs cause the hammer to almost bounce back to it's starting point. Some buffs have less bounce. The aluma buffs have almost no recoil... less so than even the bare anvil. Whether or not this fits your particular shooting equipment and style is another matter. Physics geeks can start considering the implications of elastic versus inelastic collisions and energy transfer. They only come in .100 and .150 widths, so you also have to make sure your blaster will feed with a shortened stroke (me, I'm considering cutting one down and sandwiching in a thin Red Buff as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Physics geeks can start considering the implications of elastic versus inelastic collisions and energy transfer. Is this a call to our resident engineer's? Rhino, Bill, Erik, Eric? Hello? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Physics geeks can start considering the implications of elastic versus inelastic collisions and energy transfer. Is this a call to our resident engineer's? Rhino, Bill, Erik, Eric? Hello? Don't look at me Dave, I've forgotten that portion of undergrad studies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 They only come in .100 and .150 widths, The Dawson aluminum buffs come is a 0.100" variety??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 What I learned in fizzicks skool is that you can hypothesize and theorize till the freaking cows come home, but it won't make you a better shooter. It also won't teach you jack sh*t about how to build a particle accelerator or a cell phone. But I digress... Off to dry fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 They only come in .100 and .150 widths, The Dawson aluminum buffs come is a 0.100" variety??? Yup. I got one of each the other day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I like the feel of my Limited gun without a buff in there, but I don't like the steel on steel idea. The aluminum buffer could cushion the blow a bit while still provide a "solid" feeling. I can't find anything about them on Dawson's site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 They aren't on the site from what I can tell, but the part number is 032-001 and they're 2 for $5 through 1/31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I'm not sure if they've got them listed on their site yet, but they are selling them. I've had several on back order for about 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Dawson is way behind on their web site updates.. Supposedly it's being completely redone. Give 'em a call if you want something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Thank gents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Physics geeks can start considering the implications of elastic versus inelastic collisions and energy transfer. A single experiment can invalidate a thousand theories. I say pay the $5 and find out if they work.. then report bak to the forum and declare yourself to be the aluminium shok buff expert. You will be a huge hit at cocktail parties with your stunning anecdotes on mattallic compression rates versus acceleration in a Newtonian Universe. The women will go wild.... Sorry, it's been a long day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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