valkabit Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 My friend has a Sig 938 and he's wondering if it's safe to carry the gun with a round in the chamber, and the hammer lowered. His thought is to cock the hammer and be ready for action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 In my opinion, planning to hand-cock the hammer while under stress of a potential life and death encounter is a VERY bad idea. I carry my 938 chamber loaded, cocked, with safety engaged - it's always functioned just like any other 1911; reliable as a rock and it's never discharged unless I pulled the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 That model is meant to be carried cocked-and-locked. If your buddy is not comfortable with Condition One carry, perhaps he should consider a different pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Agree with the guys above. From a mechanical perspective, I believe the P938 has a firing pin block, so if the hammer is pulled back far enough to not engage the sear and then slips and falls forward it shouldn't activate the firing pin without the trigger being released/engaged/pulled. Anyone else confirm the FPB design? I haven't tried this on the range with a non-FPB gun, but I'd imagine you'd need a very sensitive primer to get a primer ignition from a partial hammer fall. Edited March 7, 2014 by IronicTwitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRock Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Yes the P938 has a firing pin block. I agree with Fullauto_Shooter, that assuming you will be able to cock the hammer is a bad idea.It's definitely easier to push the safety off. Many people start off uncomfortable with the cocked and locked idea, and if that's your friends issue I understand. Once you get a working knowledge of the firing mechanism of a 1911 style pistol, you realize that a lot of things have to fail before the pistol could ever discharge when you don't want it to. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeislarge Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I carry a 938. Not only does it have the FPB, it also has a very positive safety engagement. It is extremely safe and very difficult to disengage the safety unless you mean to do so. I carry it not only because it shoots incredibly well but it is a miniature version of my 2011 competition gun which has thousands upon thousands of rounds down the pipe. In a bad situation I will be guided by muscle memory alone, it almost shoots identically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I carry a 938. Not only does it have the FPB, it also has a very positive safety engagement. It is extremely safe and very difficult to disengage the safety unless you mean to do so. I carry it not only because it shoots incredibly well but it is a miniature version of my 2011 competition gun which has thousands upon thousands of rounds down the pipe. In a bad situation I will be guided by muscle memory alone, it almost shoots identically. Very well said - I find the same thing to be true about similarity to the 1911 / 2011 platform. I've tried all types of pocket pistols - Kel Tecs, Ruger LCPs, Kahrs, and others; for my money the SIG 938 easily surpasses them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcloudy777 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 It's much safer to carry it cocked and locked, the way it was designed. Less chance of an ND than lowering the hammer on an empty chamber, and MUCH less chance of getting your skull caved in with a tire iron while you're trying to cock the hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Condition one all the way! The time it takes to cock the hammer can be a matter of life and death. Not willing to take that chance. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarker13 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Carry one all the time. Cocked and locked. I'd pick a different gun if I weren't comfortable doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkabit Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I don't care for his idea of cocking the hammer either, but I told him I'd find out if its at least safe to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCringleberry Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 That model is meant to be carried cocked-and-locked. If your buddy is not comfortable with Condition One carry, perhaps he should consider a different pistol.+1, without a doubt!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttrnash Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) This is my new sig p938. It's a SAS model. I didn't like the plastic trigger from the start so I found a SS trigger on eBay and replaced it. I also replaced the hammer spring with one from Galloway precision and now the trigger is a nice 5.5-6#. And it looks great. I would love to replace the hammer with one of SS but can't seem to find one. If anybody knows of a SS hammer please reply. Thanks I can't seem to upload the pic. Sorry. Edited April 5, 2014 by Ttrnash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Carry the pistol the way it is designed to be carried. Cocked and Locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I have been looking at these. What is your favorite carry method? Does anyone use the pocket carry holster that Sig sells? Do you carry in the front or back pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 You lose fine motor skills during combat so you most likely will NOT be able to pull the hammer back under stress for a life or death attack. Which may leave you pulling the trigger back wondering why the gun won't fire. If he's not comfortable carrying this way he should look at a different carry gun. It's not like the wild west where you had to carry your revolver on an empty chamber because the galloping of your horse would set your gun off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmbaccolyte Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) + 12 or is it +13? Sorry, I couldn't resist. Seriously, under lots of stress (like during a shoot out), the brain can only handle "small or fine motor skills" like cocking the hammer reliably without supposedly thousands of repetitions in practice (they told us in training classes it took 3k times to do a small motor skill under stress), so they taught the sling shot method of slide release to use after going empty and having the slide lock back, instead of just hitting the slide release lever. Of course everyone is different and that number will vary from person to person. Edited April 6, 2014 by jmbaccolyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Does anyone use the pocket carry holster that Sig sells? I have a Sig 238 and I use the Sig pocket holster. The holster works great, but it is bulky. I carry in my front pocket, but I do need large pockets. The Remora holster is also an option and it is much less bulky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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