ede Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Loaded moons for this weekends match and checked them in my 627 VComp and they pretty much fell in. Tried my 627 PC and they wouldn't go in, about 1/4" of the case at best would fit then it'd bind up. Tried them in my 327 and they fell in like the VComp. What would be a good thing to look at or look for? Single rounds load just fine. I have around 40 clips loaded I tried with nearly all giving me the same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 That's weird. What brand clips ? have you tried a different manufacture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 If it works in the other models, it would seem the issue is in the 627 Pro. But it is only a guess with nothing more to go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thehotrodpig Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Judging by my recent experience with my brand new 627 PC appearing to be assembled by a high school shop class it very well could be a manufacturing problem. Their quality control sucks lately and they don't seem to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Out of spec / undersized cylinder? Have you tried taking one of the cartridges that won't load in the moon clip and load it individually into each cylinder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 If it has worked before, must be an obstruction. If it's new and never been used, start from scratch and look at everything. I.E. make sure it is cut for Moon Clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thehotrodpig Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 He said it loads single rounds just fine. Almost has to be the holes out of spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ede Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 I just got the 627PC, never fired it. It's used but can't really tell it is, very lightly used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogged Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 My brother bought a V-Comp 627 new maybe 4-5 years ago with the same sort of story, Moonclipped rounds would not go in about 50% of the time but individual rounds did. Sent it back to the factory, it was returned with the problem solved but no explanation was given to the nature of the problem or the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 He said it loads single rounds just fine. Almost has to be the holes out of spec. Why I said back to basics, just because it was sold as being cut for moon clips doesn't make it so. Does it work with the factory moon clips it came with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Try cleaning all the chambers really well with a stainless bore brush. There may be some lead or carbon stuck to the side of one or more chambers. A good clean can't hurt anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeAZ Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Reloaded ammo?...(slight almost unnoticeable bulge about 3/8" from the bottom of the case? or .358 lead bullet with just a slight crimp?)...OR I have learned that ya gotta have good moon clips... some won't work in one gun but will in another?.. (cyl)?. Seems like it would be the cylinder out of spec, if it's not the ammo or moon clips?... I'm down to using one brand of brass and the moon clips were specified for that brass. The ONLY problem I'm having now is that I "miss" a lot?.... (I'm blaming the, the, the, trigger puller). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357454 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 What brand brass are you using? mine prefers RP and Starline but will not chamber Winchester while my brothers loads teh winchester just fine. I have also found that one in a while the undercut behind the rim is too tight and will not allow the case to fit in all the way. You should be able to twist/rotate each round after the moon clip is fully loaded if not remove the tight one a load another cartridge, this should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ede Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Brass is mixed ,same with clips but majority are Ranch. Not fooled with it any more since I don't need to shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Only use Starline in .38 SC or Federal and RP for .38 special. That should solve your problem. Mixed brass will not work in the 627s. Get a moon checker from TK Custom and use it between stages to be sure your ammo works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Mixed brass will not work in the 627s. Absolutely NOT true, .. at all. Mixed brass works just fine in all of my 8 shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Depends on the brand of moon clip. Mixed brass works fine with no moon clips or in a stock moon clip, I'm sure there are other brands also. You can mix it up with some of the others depending. Hearthco makes high quality, TIGHTLY Toleranced moon clips spec'd for a particular brand of case. Most go with Starline and those moon clips will not work with anything but Starline brass. I'm sure he can also make a looser version that would work with more brands, Starline seems real dependable on their tolerances, why they have become popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 The biggest problem I've seen with mixed brass is during ejection. Some of the brass will hang up more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ede Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 I called S&W today and they want me to send it back. I'll look it over tonite, clean it again and see if anything changes, if not I'll call S&W again and get a shipping label and let them sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macinaw Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Mixed brass will not work in the 627s. Absolutely NOT true, .. at all. Mixed brass works just fine in all of my 8 shooters. I agree! I have all sorts of brass from Cowboy matches that work fine in my M&P 327 and 627 PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ede Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 I did figure out one or two chambers were the problem. Loaded two rounds in a clip and identified the two chambers that don't work. Soon as I get my shipping label it'll go back and I bet return with a new cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thehotrodpig Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Don't plan on seeing it anytime soon. The term customer service isn't even in s&w's vocabulary lately. If I needed it soon I would start looking for another cylinder and have your gunsmith fit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Do they just need reamed? I am sure someone on this forum could point you in the right direction and get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Or just put a wtb out for a new cylinder. Im sure someone has a stainless one laying around after upgrading to a ti cylinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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