chp5 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I was looking at Bear1142's Weaver 1-3x scope on his AR yesterday at our 3 gun match. I really like the true 1x and the ability to turn up the magnification when needed. What are other choices/opinions for a true 1x vaiable scope? Leupold also makes the VX-II 1-4x20mm. I know Benny Hill likes the Simmons 1-4x 20mm shotgun scope, but I can't find that model anywhere. I think Simmons discontinued it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhearn Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I like the Kahles C1.1-4x24 - 4A Reticle, 30MM Here is a link to additional info Kahles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Cy, Benny uses the 1.5x5x20 prodiamond by simmons. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 cy, midway has the simmons 1.5-5x scope. the kahles is way to pricey. lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I think that feature is actually very rare. I believe (not 100%) that the Us Optics SN-4 is a true 1x (-4x). It costs a grip though and it apparently weighs a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 I think that feature is actually very rare.I believe (not 100%) that the Us Optics SN-4 is a true 1x (-4x). It costs a grip though and it apparently weighs a ton. Thanks RS. I thought the Weaver as a true 1x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The IOR Valdada with either the CQB or dot reticle is 1.1 - 4 x 28. We have had great success with it since it was introduced. Like any other scope, people seem to either love it or hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I've got a Smith&Wesson 1.5-6 (made by Hakko out of Japan)on my FN/FAL and I love it, I am putting one on my wifes AR next. www.cdnninvestments.com sells them for $129.99+shipping. I saw them at the Bianchi cup last year and was impressed with them except for the price at the time(like $350) so I guese S&W wasn't selling them, clearence time. I've talked 3 gunners into getting them and they are not dissapointed. Long eye relief and a good reticle, duplex w/circle, clear glass, check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Field of view is what matters, and bear's 1x3 weaver has a lot of it. Draw back is it is a little low power on the long shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The Leupold CQT is the only true 1X by something that I know of. I believe all the others are a bit over the 1X that is advertised. The CQT is the only one I have looked at that is as quick as a dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 23, 2004 Author Share Posted November 23, 2004 I looked through a Pentax Zero-X/V SG in 1-4x today at a local sporting goods store. It seemed bright with good glass and, on 1x I didn't get any shadowing around the edges regardless of the eye relief. Has anyone used one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 My Vari-X II still has a little magnification when cranked all the way down to 1. I would guess it's actually a 1.1 or 1.2. Even so, it does great for hoser stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 I have a Leupold Vari-X II 1-4x20 on my mini-14. I've been very happy so far. Bright, clear, and eye relief is not very critical. Is it a true 1x? I have no idea, but the field of view when dialed all the way down is such that I can see a goodly portion of the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run n Gun Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Garret, Actually, 1.6 X 4.2. See HERE. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFoley Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 The Trijicon Accupoint 1.25-4 set on 1.25 power doesn't seem to magnify targets, especially with both eyes open(it is long eye relief). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Fomeister, Magnifying the target isn't the problem, it's your peripheral vision just outside the scope that is important. Transitioning from target to target is where you can pick up a lot of time on the up close/hose stages. If you can get a scope that allows you to keep your vision on the same plane looking through the scope and just outside of the scope, you'll appreciate how much faster you can go. There is no perfect 3 gun scope, yet. All have some pros & cons. If trijicon could make the accu-point into a true 1 power and not the 1.25 that it is, it would be a leading contender for the best all around scope (with a slight reticle design change.) Benny, Your right, having another power setting or two would have been real helpful in Reno, but it was the 15 mph cross-wind that was really kicking my ass. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 There is no perfect 3 gun scope, yet. All have some pros & cons. If trijicon could make the accu-point into a true 1 power and not the 1.25 that it is, it would be a leading contender for the best all around scope (with a slight reticle design change.)Erik I agree, only if Leupold CQ/T has some more dots/graduations for use with std 5.56 ballistic. Icing on the cake would be a daylight reticle. Trijcon TR21R is oh-so-close, but not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Pacman, the CQ/T is also limited by its 14mm objective size. Your field of view is just too darn small with an objective that small. Almost everything else on the market is at least 20mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I don't the field of view is a problem, I've got a CQT mounted on my 14 1/2 " bbl, and I can see the comp quit clearly ,if you noticed that little lens is convexed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Mark, I've got a CQ/T to sell if you want another one. I'm glad you can use this scope, it was useless for me with its narrow side to side FOV. Thats why there is so many products on the market, things work differently for people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Pacman, the CQ/T is also limited by its 14mm objective size. Your field of view is just too darn small with an objective that small. Almost everything else on the market is at least 20mm. I believe the FOV issue only comes in to play when the scope is at a magnified setting. For the short range/CQB stage out to 50 yds or so, 1x is the setting of choice for me. For comparison purspose, I checked the view of the Leupold CQ/T at 1x plus a little bit to simulate 1.25x versus the Trijicon Accupoint at its minimum setting of 1.25, I could see more clearly with the CQ/T, probably due to better glass and quality of its coatings. I like these two the best and glad to have them both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Thank you Bob, yes I agree there wouldn't be as much varity in life if we all had the same wants and needs. But I'm working on another project right now that requires a much larger power scope, but if I here of anyone looking for one I will send them them your way, what kind of price on it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I thought that the CQT had better glass than the accupoint also,and also better than my SN4 which was a surprise.The good news is Loopy is going to have a improved CQT in the future and Nightforce has a 1X variable out this year with the Loopy being cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Lucas, Any insights on what changes Leupold is making to the CQT? Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Lucas, Any insights on what changes Leupold is making to the CQT? Erik Nooo...I don't need to spend any more $ on optics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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