cbrussell Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Price not with standing, what is the most accurate AR style semi auto 308 cal rifle? Either stock or custom; which one? Three I have been looking at are the JP, Les Baer and GAP. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drglock Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 GAP 10 from what all I've heard, never owned one of there autos but did have a GAP 7wsm bolt gun and was the most accurate gun I've ever owned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Accurate for what? Does needing it for one shot make a difference? Does it having to run for 30+ rounds factor in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeD Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Knights Armament are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 The 6.5 creedmore ones we build are shooting 3/4 moa @ 1000 and about 1/2 moa @ 200-300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Flex hit the nail. Are you talking one shot long range accuracy or multi-shot short to medium range? If the answer is one-shot, then the answer is none of them, unless you have money to spend. Dollar for dollar, a bolt action is going to out perform every semi-auto made. Edited May 22, 2013 by Graham Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I will be looking at bolt options after this purchase, but for now I am interested in a semi-auto AR-15 platform. As to one shot or thirty, I am not looking to burn ammo but do some long range precision shooting utilizing the 308 cal. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Price not with standing, what is the most accurate AR style semi auto 308 cal rifle? Either stock or custom; which one? Three I have been looking at are the JP, Les Baer and GAP. Thanks for the help. The Larue OBR my friend has is an honest 3/4 moa gun with Federal Match. The GAP I used to own was a 1.25 moa gun but it was an older one built on an Armalite rifle. The new POF's are supposed to be much better. If I were to do it again I would get the JP. The reason being my JP15 is one of the most accurate rifles I own and I can only imagine they do the same attention to detail with their .308's. JP for me from now on. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I will be looking at bolt options after this purchase, but for now I am interested in a semi-auto AR-15 platform. As to one shot or thirty, I am not looking to burn ammo but do some long range precision shooting utilizing the 308 cal. Thanks What kind of range, what kind of targets? If you are talking +1000yd stuff then you are going to be looking at the longer heavier bullets and twist rate and barrel length will start to become an issue as will OAL and magazine length. If you are willing to spend some $$ for really long range accuracy, you might want to call Georgia Precision Arms and talk with them. Also consider a different caliber. The .260 REM and 6.5mm variants will give you better ballistics with reduced recoil and muzzle jump. You might also want to talk with Benny Hill, Firebird Precision, and JP Rifles. All of them can put you on a tack-driver rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnny13 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I'm sure everyone will give you different opinions I would have to say look at the ones below in that order. Larue OBR GAP 10 Les Baer LMT POF JP Knights Just my two cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 My most accurate rifle (including the .308 bolt guns in the safe) is a JP-built .260 upper on an LR-308 lower. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Yeah, my LRP-07 is a tack driver. It's an MOA or better rifle out to 600 with most every type of ammo I've run through it. I even have some old Wolf, steel case, copper jacket which groups slightly less than MOA. My best hand loads produce about .6" groups at 100, when I do my job. I have a buddy with an OBR, which seems to produce about the same level of raw accuracy. Another buddy has an LMT, which is also an excellent rifle and doesn't group quite as tight, but still runs close to MOA with most ammo (even Win White Box). When chosing a competition rifle though, there is more to consider than just the raw accuracy. At a large match you might shoot 40-50rds on one stage and inside of 90sec. The rifle needs to be able to take the heat and not have a significant POI shift. It has to be ubber reliable and low maintenance. If your rifle does go down it has to be back up with easily attainable parts. 3gun rifles get ridden hard and right at the edge of performance, so a company with a good customer service base is extremely important too. While raw accuracy is certainly a very important factor, the story simply doesn't stop there. It's really about hitting targets as often and as fast as possible. My JP is accurate, reliable, has excellent shooting manors, is quick back on target. It's relatively light weight and I've not yet experienced a POI shift, even during a long stage. The company has a very responsive customer service and people are genuinely shocked to hear about anyone having a problem with a JP rifle. There is a reason why so many top competitors run their gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Another question which might throw a wrinkle into the decision; I might be interested in installing a silencer on the AR 308. Would that make a difference in which manufacturer or type of AR platform. AS of now I seem to have narrowed my choice down to either a Les Baer or JP. My current thinking is the JP route may allow me to customize the gun a bit more but perhaps the silencer idea changes everything. As you can tell I am a bit new to some of these options and the effect they might have on gun choices. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 If you get a suppressor get a adjustable gas block. You don't want to run a suppressed AR with a standard non adjustable gas block your rifle will beat itself to death. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Larue OBR comes with a suppressor capable switch block, but the wait is 6months to a year. JP does custom work with suppressed rifles. Give them a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 shooter Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Not trying to cause a thread drift but I noticed Rock River was not listed. I had considered getting one. Are they that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Not trying to cause a thread drift but I noticed Rock River was not listed. I had considered getting one. Are they that bad? Not a fan personally. pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Me too. A couple of buddies have them, and they seem to be well made, but they don't do anything to support our sport and they do odd things with their specs. Right off the bat, they use propritary barrel threads, which excludes 90% of the hand guards on the market. If you're on a budget, then get a DPMS. They are better than most give them credit for and DPMS is the common spec pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 If you are considering putting a can on it, call them and talk with them first. A lot of things change when you go suppressed. Given the time that it takes to get a suppressor, you can get something now that's 95% suppressor ready and order whatever upgrades you want to go with the suppressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 My JP AR is gnats ass accurate. My other is JP in all but the lower and upper, everything else is jP. Both are very accurate, like <.3 MOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Does anyone have any experience with a silencer installation on a either a JP or Les Baer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevan126 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 My vote is JP LRP-07 it is the finest rifle I have EVER SEEN OR SHOT. But if your budget is a little tight then go with GAP-10, this might be the only rifle that can stay with LRP-07. I have a JP LRP-07 and would not sell it for any amount, also JP's customer service is second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tohm Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 JP in 260 Rem with a Thunder Beast can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Oh my.... That would be a sweet combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 My most accurate 308 semi is an out of the box DPMS with a 24" heavy (VERY heavy) barrel. We put a JP trigger in it and it's been hand's down more accurate than the other (2) 308 uppers I have. That barrel for what ever reason, just shoots....maybe its the "blind pig that found the slop hole"......but I won't give it up for anything. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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