Foxbat Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Stumbled over a bunch of brass marked Ammoload, with a funny feature - inside it looks like a cup is inserted, or the wall change its thickness in a sharp step. Anyone seen this brand? Do you treat it as any other brass, or its internal volume is substantially different? I have not yet cut one to see if it is an insert, or wall thickness change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) What caliber? 9mm or .38? Edited March 3, 2013 by Hi-Power Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRichardson Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I have picked a few out of my brass. It definetly looks odd. I would think it is ok to reload but there looks to be quite a difference in case volume compared to regular brass, so major would be out. Work up a load accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 It is definitely a step, I cut one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj4020 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I purchased some new ammo from "Freedom Munitions". They told me it would be Speer brass. The 9mm is this ammoload stuff, and the 45 is blazer brass. It seems to shoot fine, but I also have some reservations about the brass itself. I will probably save the brass and trade it, sell it, or scrap it and buy some more Starline when/if things settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyrlik Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'll trade you for that brass. I found a few cases and am intrigued by the internal construction. Please PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 That looks like it would be stronger, rather than weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Looks like a lower internal volume though, so higher pressures probably. In 9Major that could be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzi Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 could it be an attempt to prevent case bulging in 9mm glocks? I don't have first hand experience with that but I have read Glock barrels tend to allow brass in some calibers to bloat a lot toward the head. Course maybe that is just a internet rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyrlik Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 9mm Glocks don't bulge cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I like the looks of it. As Steve RA said, looks stronger to me. I'm curious if it's some kind of mistake or if it's designed that way? I'd love to get 50 of these and work up loads, see what if any differences exist, compare to normal style with my chrono. Less case volume yes, but will the extra strength compensate and give higher fps with less powder maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Possible, go slow and watch for pressure signs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp52179 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Don't use that crap for reloading at all. I had a case completely seperate at that line you see inside of the case. No gun damage but left the front portion of brass in the barrel and extractor took the back half with it during cycle. Mine was major using Autocomp 7.2grain at 1.185"OAL. Friend had problem with it in a minor load same issue. The brass is weak at that seam. It literally looks like I cut the brass, no jagged edge and smooth as can be. That step up varies in each case per my micrometer. Robert Edited July 27, 2013 by jrp52179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 That's one way to prevent any bullet set back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011supercomp Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 As Robert said, throw that crap away. I’ve have found Two problems with this brass. First, on some of the brass the head face/primer pockets are concave. This results in the primer itself being partially unsupported and also results in light strikes. Second, the ridge or shelf inside the brass has no consistency and varies in height by over .150 (based on a sample of just 23 cases). Loading this brass at or even near Major pf will likely result in separated cases, blown primers or at best just a light strike. The best advise about reloading this brass “Just Don’t Do It” save it up along with the other discards and sell it for scrap. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurm Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 A friend at the Indiana Sectional this weekend had an Ammoload case separate at the step and leave half of the brass in the chamber. Zeroed the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingdog Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 9mm Glocks don't bulge cases. I was starting to think I'm the only one that realizes this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 9mm Glocks don't bulge cases. I was starting to think I'm the only one that realizes this. You are not alone: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=133957&p=2210654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd7446 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I got a sample bag of the brass with an Xtreme Bullets order. Haven't loaded it. It does look hell for strong. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 A friend at the Indiana Sectional this weekend had an Ammoload case separate at the step and leave half of the brass in the chamber. Zeroed the stage. How hot a load was it though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurm Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Sorry, should have mentioned. It was 9mm major that had just made 176 at chrono using autocomp powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunzNgunz Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I have a bunch, came with ammo I purchased through freedom. Occasionally when I pick up my brass some of the amoland brass has lost the primer already...Winchester primers. Haven't noticed this with other brass. Seems like something that could really F up a stage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 9mm Glocks don't bulge cases. I was starting to think I'm the only one that realizes this. You are not alone: Thank you. I'm encouraged that there might be intelligent life on earth. maybe even on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I pick up a few now & then... they make a nice addition to my scrap bucket.... I surely won't use them for major.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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