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Should be noted though that Small rifle primers are designed for much higher pressures. If one decides to try small pistol primers in a cartridge meant for SRP one needs to be aware of that detail. I read that on the internet somewhere so it must be true. Noted just in case a newb runs across this thread in the year 9595.

I'd definitely try what Wes suggested and check snugness of that punch. You mention some 'binding' when at top end of stroke during the seating.... does this binding sensation occur with no case in the prime station (2)? I'd be interested in pulling that punch assembly from the machine and operate it while in a vice or something to see if it binds there. Perhaps some flotsam and jetsam are in that assembly. Try flushing it with some cleaner like WD 40 or such or just hot water and soap. Don't gunk it up with excess lube as that will just make it act up again. If I have the urge to lubricate something like that I use a dry lube, like graphite or teflon powder. . The damn thing is not something one can easily dissemble. There is a youtube vid or two of someone doing that however. Could be helpful to try that. Perhaps that pin is slightly bent... I take it this is a new machine to you and first time operating?

Scooter that is a nice clean and bright set up. Almost looks like a doctors office. Like the cabinetry. However I get the strange feeling I'm looking at a Escher drawing when viewing those pics. If I look for long I get dizzy.

could it be an attempt to prevent case bulging in 9mm glocks? I don't have first hand experience with that but I have read Glock barrels tend to allow brass in some calibers to bloat a lot toward the head. Course maybe that is just a internet rumor.

For my 45 ACP loads I tend to prefer 200 grain. Reason? Seat of the pants impression and very non scientific observation is it seems SWC just makes nicer groups. Maybe it is subjective and the reason is my tiny ape brain likes crisp cut holes in paper and cardboard vs the torn holes non WC and SWC boolitz leave behind. ANother reason. A tad less powder gets burned usually and that saves me shells and shiny beads. I like shells and beads. I do load up a metric butt load of 230 grain round nose though for sure as I recently started going to bowling pin shoots. Easy enough to make sufficient power factor to knock those off a table with a 230 grain. But for all other shooting I just save a few bucks and shoot lighter bollitz. Lead, coated, plated, whatever. Bang , Bang, Bang.

I have it all and I'm not selling.

Grats on not blowing yourself or your gun up. :P And many happy years of reloading later. On a serious note that load data 'discrepancy' you noted is one major reason we experienced loaders use multiple data sources when building a new load for our guns. I myself consistently refer to 4 sources and upwards of six to eight if I count some older books and loading data supplied by various vendors (I refer to the free leaflet handouts one can get from powder and bullet makers). In my case I use a older Speer manual circa 1980's version. A modern Lyman (latest model), a new model Lee manual, a brand new up to date Hornady manual and a old 1970's era Sierra manual. I also have a new up do date Hodgens source manual and a ancient 70's era Hodgens. I can cross refer with a old 70's era Hornady and some older leaflet based load data from Dupont (defunct these days), Hercules aka Alliant Powder and a couple others I forget just now I can refer to. Depending on what I am doing I may use em all to consider my start and end zone warning hot zone load. I also use a chronograph. So, this is a very long way of saying what you noted is normal and the explanation as to why that 'discrepancy' is there would take far more detailed explanation as to specifics of how that got that way. I could proffer a few possibilities. First, as you noted test barrels were different. A minor difference in barrel grove diameter , throat, other physical factors. Second, differ powder lots , perhaps. THird, the lawyer effect. Fourth differ labs (methods), differ elevation, different ambient temp, differ gear, differ results in measurements. That is a short list off top of my head. In no particular order either. Would be nice to have a certified genuine lab tech from one of those outfits to hang out and chime in on 'why' of such things. Retired would do.

Simple supply and demand is concepts many of today's Americans fail to understand. I suppose one can blame the modern American "educational" system that indoctrinates young adults and children with socialism and 'fairness' and everyone should be equal under the sun, that capitalism is bad and evil. Now, don't take me wrong I don't assert anyone who has commented above to fall into that demographic. I too can whine about someone else willing to pay more for highly sought for and in short supply items than I am willing to pay. I am going to be charitable and presume that is the base of any complaints. Ebay is nothing more than pure economic forces on display. You see people list items that other people want. Bids ensue. Eventually the buyer, or in Ebay terms dah 'winner', determines the value of the item(s). If supply catches up with demand prices fall as customers of Ebay sellers won't offer as much as they won't have to. That market will die and things should go back to 'normal'. Those that still want to complain about 'evil marketeers' can simply take a course in economics and learn what supply and demand is all about and why America is the strongest economy on the planet in history. Well, one can safely argue that is far less so today with vastly increased socialism tendencies of the US Federal Government in the past 30 years and that is accelerating at warp speed under Obama and the like.... but we still prevail so far. Sadly it is far more difficult for a small business to get into the act these days than it was 30 and more years ago. Far more regulations, tax laws, employee costs and ad nasuem. Just a simple thing as the jack assian minimum wage law can prevent a small business from taking off or even being started. I could ramble on... A free market will have the ability to respond to extreme demand. Hopefully by more producers coming on line, seeking phat profits themselves. Ebay isn't about producers of course(mostly). It is about who has something and who wants something. It is just a barometer of sorts. Of course, someone could chime in with a 'Blame the Rich' argument. After all it is someone who has MORE than you do that is willing to blow more cash on something than you are. That rich bastard........! Therefor it is the rich causing prices to rise.. there I started your argument. Feel free to expand I got some 12 dollar a six pack brewskies waiting for me.

THis is normal. Think about it, that powder will settle over time. I usually leave my XL650 now with the cases all stuffed in dies with the ram UP just to avoid that very issue. (EDIT) I also do this even if I'm going to do something else at the bench for a minute or so, especially if one causes bench vibrations) Now, I'm talking about coming back within the week or so to load more. I dont' know what sort of damage one might or might not do to a brass case and resizing die if one were to walk off and come back a year later. YMMV , and IANAL. Otherwise, one just learns to catch that first fresh stroked case on station 4, dump in measuring pan and weigh, adjust as needed, and refill it, seat and GOGOGOGOGOGOGO. Or, you can just save those 'special' cartridge loads for a troublesome friend.

Nothing to see here, move along now.

I have that happen on my xl650 set up and 45acp brass most often when the case feed is on hi-speed. Low - Speed setting seems to pretty much eliminate the occurrence of but not totally. I've just learned to live with it and on my setup it isn't happening all that often, on slow speed, so not a big PITA for me..

Thanks. Yep. That bench is sort of multi purpose. I use it for cleaning guns and or tinkering on whatever when I feel like working indoors rather than out in the garage or at the shed work bench. The RCBS I just c-clamp in place though I did drill a couple holes for it lately, so I can free up more bench room quick. I use a old Panavise mounted on a 3/8" thick slab of 9" diameter lead 'sheeting' to help hold guns when at the bench. The IPAD is mounted via RAM Mounting Systems attachments for just in case I have to watch another episode of 24 or something while at the bench. It has other uses at times. It recently dawned on me I need to scrounge up a alternate safe to stash ammo in. Guns are locked up and burgler resistant but the ammo isn't. Dumb. So that will free up a lot of lower bench space as that is where I've got a buttload of ammo just now. Just haven't quite figured out what sort of safe I want to get for the ammo.

My new Vibraprime arrive last week via Natcho's. I had to deburr mine as well as described above. Large primers were not a issue but on the small primer side that hole had a teeny burr causing issues. I also polished the tubes inside with the aide of a appropriate sized barrel mop and polishing compound. THis last really wasn't needed I just like polishing things for no apparent reason. Works great for me now. Small and large primers with no more tilting at the hole and getting jammied sideways. I use the tubes that came with the VibraPrime. I don't know why people don't like em. They work just fine for me transfering the primers from the VibraPrime tube direcd to my Dillon 650 press. I did however put a additional chamfer on the end of the VibraPrime aluminum primer tubes to aide a closer fit to the primer magazine cap on the 650. I see no need for my current Dillon primer pickup tubes. I sold the spare ones I had on Ebay for some PHAT PROFITS and am sitting here wondering why not sell the last two I have for yet more obscene profit. Eh, I better keep them in case the batteries die on my new vibrator.

I dont' know why anyone would need a low powder sensor. One would have to be pretty distracted and not manage to notice the powder hopper getting low. If one is that distracted, one should not be operating a progressive press. So I'd call that 'senseless'. I'd be tempted to point that money into having a station 4 powder alert instead. Some would argue that too is extravagance unneeded and it is arguably true for those of us loading short pistol case ammo. It is fairly easy to set up lights to see into the case as it flips by to eyeball powder level. I finally splurged and got one and it , once set up properly and maintained, can give extra levels of confidence. However it can also give a false sense of confidence if for some reason it does not go off when it is supposed to. I loaded for years without one. Spend a lot of time on youtube. Bunches of good helpful vids there. Ultimate Reloader channel is a good one, and that is just one. I'd get another book besides Lyman. Hornady and Speer would be good. A older Speer is fine too, might find one used at the right price. I'll never let go of my one from the 80's though, not selling it. Suggestion, rather than just shooting for a target of blowin away 2000 rounds a month try incorporating a lot more dry fire exercises. Rumor is top level shooters do a lot of it. Some say more than firing real ammo. Go figure. Something sillyi about trigger control or something I guess. Enjoy your new blue

'Things will be back to normal soon' I"m going to be charitable and assume that was sarcasm. Otherwise I'd have to presume a low information voter is afoot.

Edit. Nevermind I misread your question. Your talking about the headspace set up. I am unfamiliar with that. Trying to figure out what your asking, 2nd Edit. After looking at some pics of that headspace gauge comparator I say it appears to be a different design than the bullet comparator. So yah, you would want to order a bullet comparator. You can just buy that comparator by itself and just the 308 bushing. Or just get that 6 bushing kit with comparator below from my first edit. (sorry for confusion) http://www.midwayusa...-with-6-inserts That is the basic kit. It comes with the comparator body . Yes, you only need one comparator body. Period. Works with the inserts, or bushings. 308 in that kit will also work for 303 enfield aka .312 bullets. Hope that answered your question.

I Want It! I wonder what front sight you keep your eye on... NSFA !! I warn you, do not watch this other video if you have any 45 ACP 1911 love inside your heart. It features extra slow motion and music designed to subvert your conscientiousness . Something might break inside of you and you will find yourself as I am now, muttering in the corner 'My Precious, My Precious' Unfulfilled and yearning for something only seen from afar. That weapon is awakening my inner child. I want one for not obvious good reason other than it is something I now want and must have. Waa, Waa, waa, until I find one. As to the front sight, that's the point I think. WHO NEEDS ONE> POINT AND SHOOT. This gun screams out for use by those who like to point fearsome weapons and say things like: 'Go ahead, make my day" "You talkin' to me?" "You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?" "Say 'hello' to my little friend!" "Here's Johnny!" "Hasta la vista, baby." "Here's looking at you, kid." I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!" ** **Of course with one pull of the trigger. Now to try and make some effort to get back on topic. I have XDS 45 for a few months now. Love it. Now I want Springfield to make the XDSx2 . Compact back up gun to match that one from Arsenal Arms. Yah, that's the ticket!

Is this with Black Bullets International? How did youi manage to place a order as this has been up on their web site for at least a week now: Special Notice!!!!! - Due to the recent drastic increase - we are going to temporarily suspend taking additional orders. BBI sends our deepest apologies for this inconvenience. We will use this time to get back to our standard model and work at increasing our capacity. Our normal business model ships directly out of inventory. At the present we simply do not have the capacity to produce at the current order rate. We anticipate starting to take additional orders Mid-April 2013.

Lots of great replies in this thread. I'll just repeat what another said. Do not rely on one source. Period. In my use I use 6 different books to cross refer to when building a new load. Some are old ones that date to 70's and 80's others are late model ones published in the last few years. If I had to tell a new guy and be his Elmer I'd tell him get at least 3 reference books. Yes, these days kids can go internet too. I'd still want the books but I"m old and grumpy.

LOL. I wish the guys at the local meets I;'ve been to at a range I won't mention, would go pick up more brass. Too many just leave it sit . Matches I used to attend out on the west side of Houston back in the mid 90's .. it was sort of a informal match rule. Tape and help pick up brass. If your not taping, help pick up brass and if it belongs to person x and they have to have that brass hand it to em, else we would dump it in a bucket and people would get what they thought they shot at end of that stage/match. Current bunch at range I've shot at dont' do that. I hate seeing brass on the grass. Snag it quick , before it some clod afoot grinds it into the graven earth to let it rot unto its green I want to vent my bloody spleen.

You could customize your gear with a custom paint job. I'd go candy apple red with highlights in gold and neon columbia blue. Layer on clear coat for that estra sexay gloss and durability. Go to Ebay and get some custom gear shift knobs for your press's. Ditch those droll roller handles if your using them. However I suppose a guy could have pool balls custom drilled and mounted on that roller all with custom inserts and paint work. I'd ask that guy on ebay that sells em. Might be nice and comfy on the hands, kind of like a roller massager for the palm. (might be the Cruzan Black STrap rum talking here on that last idea). All your press' need tricked out LED kits. You could go tri color and don't forget to run LED strips up the primer feed tubes and casefeed supports. Blinking alternate colors and patterns. If ya go whole hog you get a programmable blink controller like those guys do with the fancy xmas light displays one sees on youtube. (those guys are insane, eh?) That's a few ideas, all I could drum up between sips of my Friday evening beverage. I have to go mix another so no time to type up more just yet.

Well, that sounds great. OR I one could go Ferengi and make phat prophits on Ebay selling powder dies for 45 dollars a pop. Options, life is all about options. Kind of like visiting a car dealership.

WEll, if you do like the guys I see at IPSC and USPSA shoot meets you lug along a giant 4 wheel cart or a two wheeler hand cart tricked out to hold your cooler, ammo, chair, guns, umbrella, and endless other duffery. I've seen those used at the local range. I do not have one. They seem to work okay, they pick up typical hand gun ammo okay anyway but doubt they work great on brass below 380 and 380 might slip out. But, having 380 slip out would be considered a bonus by a 45 ACP bigot ,er fan, like me. Can't comment on how well they work on rifle brass like 5.56 NATO for example. I suspect 5.56 sized brass might pick up alright but anything larger might not. Dunno really. Downside I suppose is the things are not selective in the crap they scoop up. If some yo-yo (my inner bigot is showing) is shooting steel case ammo nearby that doo-hicky will snag that crap up too. I wasn't overly impressed but the guys that had them seemed to like them. I suspect, and this is just my own theory now, that they feel good about it because it cost so much. I could be wrong, I did not proffer this idea to anyone I saw with such a device. I myself use a thing you often see at the local drug store. A pickup tong doohicky sold to people who either dont' like to bend over or maybe are stuck in a wheelchair. They come in various designs some with rubber cups others with what is more or less big giant plastic tweezers. Of the onnes I've used they all work good enough for picking up brass when I dont' feel like stooping. Up side, I can be selective. Down side it is slower than that sucks everything up roller (ASSUMING DENSITY of ammo your rolling tht thing over, variable unable to compute. )

EDIT: I had emailed them about the broken bit below about a month ago. Email them. I had a broken bit on a powder measure on my XL650. I gave them the parts numbers and full description of what was broken. They never replied to my email and the robot response said they were 2 weeks behind on just answering any emails. So knowing the situation I put my patience cap on, and a bottle of CRuzan Extra Dark Rum, Black Strap, and waited. About just less than two weeks later the parts arrived. No warning, they just arrived. No emails Nada. That is how it works in this time of Obamination. If you want to blame anyone, blame your local libtards, hmmkaaaay? Oh, and rather than send me the parts I had listed they sent me a entire subsection of that powder drop which was more than I needed but was probabliy easier on them time wise. (was that sliding bushing section bits of it had broken) I'd not bother calling them but if you enjoy waiting online I suggest using SKYPE and a good headset but be prepared. If you are at your PC doing that you might want to have a urninal handy and if you are similar to me, that bottle of Cruzan Black Strap Rum and a bucket of ice, and your favorite brand of root beer. Pour the root beer into a glass, add ice to taste, and at least one ounce of Black Strap Cruzan Rum. Enjoy your wait on line. If you wait long enough you may not give a rats ass.

What is that device that is on the edge of the left (bottom on your sideways posted picture) side of the case feed housing? ARe you using some non standard means to attach to the machine? I'm using the stamp steel pipe supplied on my XL650 and mine is mounted as solid as one could want. No jibbling, jiggling or vibrating or bouncing around or drooping. If it is movement of the assembly that causes that as another poster suggested, that thing must be bouncing around like a jalopy from the early 1900's. That might make a good you tube video. Title it, how to not mount Dillon Casefeed and post it as a counter vid to Hickok's "How NOT to shoot a revolver" .