bonglee0507 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) hi everyone, which is a better process in slide to frame fitting. TIG welding or peening/squeezing? i just bought an sti edge and it rattles a little bit, i know this does not affect accuracy but i just want my pistol to be tight... your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Edited December 26, 2012 by bonglee0507 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dis-1-Shooter Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 AccuRail.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 AccuRail.... would love that but it is still not available in the philippines so i have to chose bet the two mentioned above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vernbo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 have you thought about a shop that could hard chrome the frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 have you thought about a shop that could hard chrome the frame? I already had it hard chromed and the rattle is still there Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 slide glide... no more rattle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 slide glide... no more rattle... What's slide glide? Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 slide glide... no more rattle... What's slide glide? Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk http://www.brianenos.com/pages/slide-glide.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ormondopen Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I have pinched a slide in the frame ever so slightly at the rails, worked like a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Definitely not worth the effort to weld it up. Might as well buy a new slide if you're going to go through that much trouble. If it's just a small amount, a squeeze in the vise with proper tools should do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Definitely not worth the effort to weld it up. Might as well buy a new slide if you're going to go through that much trouble. If it's just a small amount, a squeeze in the vise with proper tools should do the job. Its a new sti edge. I think its too impractical to buy a new slide. I read in other articles that squeezing the slide might damage it. Isn't tig welding good? Or will it damage the frame? Thanks Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 If it's new, I'd send it back and ask for a different one. TiG will work, but it doesn't make sense to do build up in just a couple of spots. You have to pretty much weld the entire rail, and even the smallest bead you're going to run is going to require machining and hand lapping to get it perfect. So it's pretty much the same job as fitting a new slide. Only with welding you introduced a bunch of heat into the part, which isn't really a good thing either. I've built a lot of 1911s over the past 15+ years, have a Syncrowave 250 sitting in my garage, and have multiple AWS certs for MiG and TiG, but this is not something I would do. Not saying it can't be done (assuming you have all the tools), but it's just not worth the time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Apply slide glide then shoot the hell out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 If it's new, I'd send it back and ask for a different one. TiG will work, but it doesn't make sense to do build up in just a couple of spots. You have to pretty much weld the entire rail, and even the smallest bead you're going to run is going to require machining and hand lapping to get it perfect. So it's pretty much the same job as fitting a new slide. Only with welding you introduced a bunch of heat into the part, which isn't really a good thing either. I've built a lot of 1911s over the past 15+ years, have a Syncrowave 250 sitting in my garage, and have multiple AWS certs for MiG and TiG, but this is not something I would do. Not saying it can't be done (assuming you have all the tools), but it's just not worth the time and effort. this is the philippines bro, you just can't return it just like that it's your's for life or sell it at a 2nd hand price. the warranty center of sti here will just do peening and squeezing of the frame and slide. searched the net and i found out that tig welding is the best way and that's only $73 here. Apply slide glide then shoot the hell out of it. no slide glide here man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I would let the warranty center do any repairs. They should be set up with the right tooling and save you money and hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 If all things were equal, welding the rails would be best, but peening the rails does work. Never squeeze the slide. It comes down to the skill of the smith doing the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jriera Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/handgun-tools/slide-tools/1911-auto-slide-tightening-tools-prod26691.aspx http://www.alphaprecisioninc.com/tools/default.htm I have used the first one with success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 If all things were equal, welding the rails would be best, but peening the rails does work. Never squeeze the slide. It comes down to the skill of the smith doing the work. Just curious, but what's wrong with squeezing the slide? Brownells sells tools specifically for this purpose and I've done it many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb06 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Welding when done correctly is as good as any repair. Problem is getting a gunsmith that knows how to do it correctly. i have had my open gun rails welded and the slide re-fit no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Welding when done correctly is as good as any repair. Problem is getting a gunsmith that knows how to do it correctly. i have had my open gun rails welded and the slide re-fit no problems. If i have it welded, will the existing finish of the frame(hard chrome) be affected? Do i have to re-finish it? Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 You have to strip the chrome before you weld and refit the slide. Then refinish the slide when you're done. Chrome on the frame should be ok, although you're going to wear through some (most?) when you lap the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 If the sights are on the slide and the barrel to slide fit is good, slide to frame fit - within reason - is immaterial as far as accuracy is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 double plug your ears, so you dont hear it rattle, and shoot the crap out of it, or sell it. If you start trying to fix it you could get into a chunk of change and if you are going to drop a chunk on it then you should start over, also are you sure it is the slide rattleing ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 double plug your ears, so you dont hear it rattle, and shoot the crap out of it, or sell it. If you start trying to fix it you could get into a chunk of change and if you are going to drop a chunk on it then you should start over, also are you sure it is the slide rattleing ??? Im sure bec im not wearing any ear plugs Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 double plug your ears, so you dont hear it rattle, and shoot the crap out of it, or sell it. If you start trying to fix it you could get into a chunk of change and if you are going to drop a chunk on it then you should start over, also are you sure it is the slide rattleing ??? Im sure bec im not wearing any ear plugs Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk I was just kidding about the ear plugs,but really just shoot it until it falls apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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