Fairly safe powder to double charge for 9mm?

[Red Ryder]

Is there any powder for 9mm minor that, if accidently double charged, would NOT cause death and destruction? And NO, my kids are not reloading ammo for me!

[GrumpyOne]

There are many powders out there that will spill over/out of the case if double charged. AFAIK, any powder which will fit a double charge into a case will cause D&D.

[atbarr]

Is there any powder for 9mm minor that, if accidently double charged, would NOT cause death and destruction? And NO, my kids are not reloading ammo for me!

I use 4.6 gr of Solo 1000 with Zero 124 gr. There is maybe 1/4" of space left with a single charge. Solo is soft shooting and very little smoke. Do a search on it.

A.T.

[Sarge]

Double charges are not good!

[JerryShoots]

Go with something that will spill over if double charged. As far as I'm aware there is not currently any powder that will not cause a catastrophic failure in a 9x19 if double charged. I hate to consider this but some powders might cause only a sub catastrophic failure(one that does not permanently destroy the weapon) It would have to be one that has a max load that still doesn't reach a particularly high velocity. I can almost guarantee that any double charge with any powder cannot be trusted not to do serious damage though.

Again definately go with a powder that almost fills a casing per charge to avoid the risk that way.

[Pat Miles]

Talcum powder?

All kidding aside, why are you even reloading if you have to ask this question? Pay attention while you are reloading so you don't hurt yourself or someone else!

Pat

[George]

If your starting charge is 1/2 of the max listed charge then thats kinda safe to double, otherwise there is no such thing as a safe double charge once the base charge weight doubled exceeds max safe charge weight.

In other words, there is no such thing really, but but then again, it all depends on the starting charge in use in the first place

The advice to use a low density powder that will always overflow the case if doubled is the only way to get any safety built into the powder choice like you are seeking. HS6 fills this bill in 9mm.

Hope this helps you.

[Red Ryder]

Talcum powder?

All kidding aside, why are you even reloading if you have to ask this question? Pay attention while you are reloading so you don't hurt yourself or someone else!

Pat

I ask because Titegroup leaves plenty of space in a 9mm case for a double charge. N320 does not. IMR 7625 does not. You think that Hodgeson would have "fixed" that in these sue happy times. I am glad they didn't since we get more rounds per pound. I use a powder check and I "eye ball" every case as it goes by!

[JOHNNYGLOCK]

Tite Group is great powder but you can get up to THREE charges in 9mm before it fills the case, VERY SCARY if not careful. Power Pistol is another powder that is hard to double, it will spill out of the case if you do. Always check and recheck your charge wait, safety first at the bench and on the range!

[Religious Shooter]

Go look at the 9mm Major reloading thread. 9mm Major loads are almost double charges by intent.

[dauntedfuture]

Look for slow powders with light bullets. Youre going to fill the case for sure (almost) in 9mm

jon

[dauntedfuture]

Ohh. Black powder..

[GrumpyOne]

Ohh. Black powder..

Even BP in the right circumstance can cause catastrophic failures...If I'm not mistaken, BP is considered an explosive. While it doesn't produce the same amount of pressures that smokeless powders do, in the right instances, it can easily destroy finely made firearms.

Check out the 3:30 - 3:50 mark of the video.

[Nealio]

Is there any powder for 9mm minor that, if accidently double charged, would NOT cause death and destruction? And NO, my kids are not reloading ammo for me!

I only run powders that take up at least 50% of the case volume for this very reason.

I'm running 6.5 gr PowerPistol and I've accidentally "doubled" it when I've had primers not pop out and I re-cycle the handle. However the big pile of gray particles spilling off my shell plate brings my attention to the issue..

[GrumpyOne]

Is there any powder for 9mm minor that, if accidently double charged, would NOT cause death and destruction? And NO, my kids are not reloading ammo for me!

I only run powders that take up at least 50% of the case volume for this very reason.

I'm running 6.5 gr PowerPistol and I've accidentally "doubled" it when I've had primers not pop out and I re-cycle the handle. However the big pile of gray particles spilling off my shell plate brings my attention to the issue..

I started reloading with Power Pistol, for just that reason....And it's very verstile as well!

[rishii]

way back when I shot 6 grn of unique under a 115 fmj

the powder came almost to the case mouth, not chance of double charging that one

[gm iprod]

The only powder that you can double charge safely in a 9mm is.

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BABY POWDER!

Edited April 6, 2011 by gm iprod

[sperman]

WST is alos a bulky powder.

[JOHNNYGLOCK]

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<br />Is there any powder for 9mm minor that, if accidently double charged, would NOT cause death and destruction?   <img src='http://www.brianenos.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> And NO, my kids are not reloading ammo for me!<br />

<br /><br />I only run powders that take up at least 50% of the case volume for this very reason.  <br />I'm running 6.5 gr PowerPistol and I've accidentally "doubled" it when I've had primers not pop out and I re-cycle the handle.  However the big pile of gray particles spilling off my shell plate brings my attention to the issue.. <img src='http://www.brianenos.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br />

<br />I started reloading with Power Pistol, for just that reason....And it's very verstile as well!<br />

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You got that right boys! Power pistol will always be on my shelf, Very verstile. I switched to tite group for most of my match ammo to get more bang for my buck, less flash indoors, quick snap recoil. But I am always looking in the case to see if it has to much in there. If I could only have one pistol powder I think it would be Power Pistol. You can make some of the hottest loads with it in (9/40/45/357sig) also works great in 45colt and many more!

[GrumpyOne]

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<br />Is there any powder for 9mm minor that, if accidently double charged, would NOT cause death and destruction?   <img src='http://www.brianenos.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> And NO, my kids are not reloading ammo for me!<br />

<br /><br />I only run powders that take up at least 50% of the case volume for this very reason.  <br />I'm running 6.5 gr PowerPistol and I've accidentally "doubled" it when I've had primers not pop out and I re-cycle the handle.  However the big pile of gray particles spilling off my shell plate brings my attention to the issue.. <img src='http://www.brianenos.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br />

<br />I started reloading with Power Pistol, for just that reason....And it's very verstile as well!<br />

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You got that right boys! Power pistol will always be on my shelf, Very verstile. I switched to tite group for most of my match ammo to get more bang for my buck, less flash indoors, quick snap recoil. But I am always looking in the case to see if it has to much in there. If I could only have one pistol powder I think it would be Power Pistol. You can make some of the hottest loads with it in (9/40/45/357sig) also works great in 45colt and many more!

It even works well for 44 mag....

[Nealio]

If I could only have one pistol powder I think it would be Power Pistol. You can make some of the hottest loads with it in (9/40/45/357sig) also works great in 45colt and many more!

Its the only pistol powder I use. It even yielded the best velocity out of my 9mm carbine!

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[Col. Mortimer]

WSF also fills more than half of the case. Even though the powder will over flow the case, you can still place a bullet on the case and seat it. Therefore, nothing takes the place of attention to what you are doing.