d_striker Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 This was discussed just a few weeks ago. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117020 Thanks...I searched but not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 The title of the thread wasn't very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrick Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 5.2.7.2 covers all divisions and even though appendix D for Limited does not specify any holster restrictions, it does not eliminate the requirement that the heel of the backstrap (or butt) of the gun be at or above the top of the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 5.2.7 Competitors must not be permitted to commence a course of fire wearing: 5.2.7.2 A holster with the heel of the butt of a handgun below the top of the belt, except as specified in Appendix D, or otherwise indicated in Rule 5.2.8 Appendix D2 - Limited Division 12: Restriction on position of holster and other equipment - NO I take this to mean 5.2.7.2 does not apply to Limited division. It that correct? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Position means the location of the holster on the belt, on the side, in front etc, the type means the type of holster, race holster, covered holster etc. The butt of the gun must be above the top of the belt. It is misleading; You're not the only one to have asked this question, its cropped up before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 This was from 2 months ago. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 And from just a few weeks before that. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Note: Threads merged - Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Burwell Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I am sure I will be chastised for not just bumping them to Open Division Gary, Not sure that is possible. The rules states that they must not be permitted to start a CoF. I could be wrong but I do not see an exemption for open either? So under what rule would you move him to open? Does this rule not apply to open as well? Just trying to learn not bust your balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Yea or nea, on my rig Edited January 18, 2011 by Reshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_gorilla45 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Yea. You're fine with that setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I am sure I will be chastised for not just bumping them to Open Division Gary, Not sure that is possible. The rules states that they must not be permitted to start a CoF. I could be wrong but I do not see an exemption for open either? So under what rule would you move him to open? Does this rule not apply to open as well? Just trying to learn not bust your balls Yeah I got to thinking about that after I posted. Probably a thing one should do before they post:) You can't bump them to open because the gun/holster/belt configuration would be illegal there also. Once I observed the violation, I corrected the shooters before they shot their stage. I guess that is about all I could really do, not that I wanted to do something more drastic. The only other option would have been to just keep quiet, but then the shooters would not be able to learn and correct the problem for future matches. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yea or nea, on my rig Is that much of the trigger visible allowed as long as it is inaccessible (without really trying hard)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yea or nea, on my rig Is that much of the trigger visible allowed as long as it is inaccessible (without really trying hard)? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Not to drift the thread further, but that sure is pushing the edge. David (Reshoot)...is the front of the trigger guard all the way down and butted against the cut out in the holster? That is a new holster setup for you, right? If you make it to C-ville on the 1st Saturday (coming up) get with me and I'll help you make sure you are setup right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yea or nea, on my rig As holstered it is legal, BUT as Flex pointed out you are pushing the edge of safety. I would bet that your gun is being held up by the muzzle piece rather than a combination of the trigger guard and the muzzle. If you need to push down on the gun to slide the safety lever into place, then the holster is not set up right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Not to drift the thread further, but that sure is pushing the edge. David (Reshoot)...is the front of the trigger guard all the way down and butted against the cut out in the holster? That is a new holster setup for you, right? If you make it to C-ville on the 1st Saturday (coming up) get with me and I'll help you make sure you are setup right. What I did, when I set the holster up, was to place the barrel stop in a position where I could insert two screws in the stop. I did not give any thought to how deep the trigger guard was into the holster. Until it was mentioned here, I did not realize the mistake! Was simple enought to fix though. Thanks to all of you for pointing it out! The last thing I want to do, Klye, it drive clean across the state, fork out all that money, shoot in the Ohio Sectional and be sent home without a championship plaque You betcha, I want you to check out my rig next month! Dave Edited January 19, 2011 by Reshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Slight thread drift: I only asked about the exposure because with an Tanfoglio Witness Match in a WSM II, I need the same kind of positioning to keep the gun securely in the holster. I could have the gun lower, but it would be bouncing up and down as I ran after shooters. I ended up doing some major surgery (as shown by CHA-LEE in an old thread on the Tanfoglio forum) on the holster so that my Match sits lower, hiding the trigger completely, and securely. Now back on the main topic about the vertical position of the gun: Is there a minimum amount of the heel of the butt of a gun that needs to be above the top of the belt? 1/4" along the backstrap? 1/8"? 1/16"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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