Flexmoney Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Roundabout: World record - Roundabout - JJ Racaza - 8.08 total - 2.02 avg. - 2008 2003 Steel Challenge Best time = 8.61 (K.C.) Top 16 avg. = 9.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBChaffin Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Similar to Showdown in that I used a "circular" order. I shot 4, 3, 1, 2, stop Seemed smoothest. What's the best way to shoot this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Post Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I havn't settled on this one yet. The thing I have to watch out for is I often shoot two plates on the left side and as I cross over to the right side, I almost settle on the stop plate. I havn't shot the stop plate out of order, but I have come to a complete stop before realizing my error. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 1, 2, 3, 4 was considerably faster for me than 2, 1, 3, 4 even though my draw is slower on 1 by a tenth or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Perhaps the consistently fastest person to shoot this stage was The Jet. He shot it 1,2,4,3 stop After practicing all the various ways, I've come to the conclusion The Jet was right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer x Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 concur with warpspeeed....1,2,4,3,stop...set up in the right-front of the box...this brings the 1,2 plates closer together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Dedmon Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 1,2,4,3,stop for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Technically, 1,2,4,3 may be the fastest, and I've shot it that way in the Match more than once. But after many years of experience, not only my own, but studying others in the Match as well, one of the few things I can say for sure is that I'd now always shoot that stage 1,2,3,4. Although the first way may be .05 faster, in the Match, I'd say it's a least 20% riskier. At warp speed, if you miss plate 4, the audible recognition of the miss occurs right about the time you're shooting 3, and then it's just so easy to tap that stop plate and suck down a 5 second penalty. Do that on your first run in the match and you won't be able to jackhammer a needle up your ass. Remember, you've gotta keep four runs, not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Do that on your first run in the match and you won't be able to jackhammer a needle up your ass. That's just freakin' hysterical. Another classic for Erik's greatest hits thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 i just pulled my times for this stage off of my notes, and with a limited gun shot it in 11.89, a concur with be that the disaster factor for shooting this any other way but 1,2,3,4,stop, is increased on match day, but then i shoot smoke and hope(1,2,3,4,stop) the same way for the same reasons. trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 I have to shoot it 2, 1, 3, 4. It gets me a draw of about a second, a couple tenths faster than shooting #1 first. I can't get back those lost tenths with transitions using the 1234 order. I'm a madman on the last two shots. I put down a 2.22 today with my P9 and I'm going to see how hard it is to hit sub-2 with my SV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I have to shoot it 2, 1, 3, 4. It gets me a draw of about a second, a couple tenths faster than shooting #1 first. I can't get back those lost tenths with transitions using the 1234 order. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Logically, I can follow that. In practice, 2134 or 1243 might actually be a tad faster. In the match, however, if I ever missed a 15 yard target - highly probable on one or more runs because I'd tend to "wave" the gun at target 1 instead of stopping dead like I would on the first shot - I could flush that run down the toilet. After many years of experimenting with Roundabout, the simplest, easiest, and most consistent plan, for me, was to - Stop a centered first shot on target 1, "tap" target 2 on the way to stopping a centered shot on target 3 (making sure I'm behind the gun again before shooting target 3), then it's pretty easy to tap target 4 and out. A common error, when deciding on the first target - is to shoot the closest target first. However, that doesn't take in to account that you will have to ACQUIRE the farther target, which you didn't shoot first, while shooting the rest of the stage. Not only does it take noticably longer to acquire a 15 yd target than an 8 yard target, but you are probably more than twice as apt to miss it - when the juices are flowing. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ong45 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I shot this 1243 last year and i was up to a .10 faster most days. The problem with this order for me was on match day i would really slow down for plate 3 because of the high disaster factor. I have since switched back to 1234, mentally much more relaxing and the times have actually improved to about the same as 1243. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I'm still all about 1234.. shot a 2.3 the other day, which is pretty good for me and my sluggish draw... this stage usually goes better than Smoke & Hope for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I shot this 1243 last year and i was up to a .10 faster most days. The problem with this order for me was on match day i would really slow down for plate 3 because of the high disaster factor. I have since switched back to 1234, mentally much more relaxing and the times have actually improved to about the same as 1243. James <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ditto to that one. I posted this, actually as sort of thread drift really in another forum, so I copied it here. I'm always looking for something specific, but I'm seldom looking at any one place for too long. Say the stage is the Steel Challenge's Roundabout, shooting L-R; 1,2,3,4, stop. "Shooter ready, stand by" - I'm looking right at the target (15 yds) - "beep" - immediately my vision pulls back to close to where the sights will appear; by the time the sights arrive on the target, I have them in clear focus. "Bang-ding" - Immediately my eyes move to the next target (7 yds), as soon as it is seen as a "round object" (located), I'm bringing my eyes back to the gun/sights, which may be seen as a blur as they land on, or "come into" the target. "Bang-ding." Immediately on the bang, my eyes are looking for the center of the round shape of target 3 (15 yds); as soon as I've found/seen that, my eyes are coming back for the sights, and I will see a fairly clear sight alignment STOP on that target. "Bang-ding." Instantly my eyes are off in search of target 4 (7 yds) - as soon as I've found it as a round object I'm quickly looking for the sights, cause they're gonna be on the target real quick. "Bang-ding." With no interuption at all, my eyes are looking to lock onto the stop plate, then I'll wait for the sights to get there before hitting the trigger. In that way you're always looking for something specific, but you're never staring at anything. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySolomon Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) I have uploaded some videos from the 2002 SC stages of Roundabout and Outerlimits on my web site: http://www.raysolomon.com/page7/page1/page1.html. I got inspired to post these videos after reading this discussion. It is interesting to see how some of the top shooters "get ready" and compose themselves before and during each of the runs. Ong45 is there also. Ray-- Edited March 14, 2006 by RaySolomon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAJ Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I shoot it 1,2,3,4, stop, because... the number 3 plate is easy to miss because of the transition past the stop plate, and if it IS missed, it can be picked up on the way back from the number 4 plate with little added time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brospizza Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 this stage is where i had an epiphany i was told that each stage had it's own sound this stage is where that hit me like a brick the way i felt more confident shooting it was 1,2,4, pause 3,s but the other way that i have tried is 1,2, pause 4,3,s now when i say pause i don't mean i sit there for an hour i mean getting your bearings before you shoot the next plate which could be hardly noticeable but you can definitely hear the difference i hope that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 this stage is where i had an epiphany i was told that each stage had it's own sound this stage is where that hit me like a brick the way i felt more confident shooting it was 1,2,4, pause 3,s but the other way that i have tried is 1,2, pause 4,3,s now when i say pause i don't mean i sit there for an hour i mean getting your bearings before you shoot the next plate which could be hardly noticeable but you can definitely hear the difference i hope that makes sense That's funny. I was just noticing the sound for Accelerator the other day-- dinkdink.dink...dink...dink First time I'd really thought of a stage that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 On that note...check out this thread...with KC's tips: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68032 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRNinTX Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 New World Record B.J. Norris 8/21/2010 8.00 sec 2.00 sec avg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmd Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 New World Record B.J. Norris 8/21/2010 8.00 sec 2.00 sec avg Wow - that's crazy fast. And at the big show too - Congrats BJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aint No Rest 4 The Wicked Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Saw him live at the US Steel National, mind blowing fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 Congrats BJ. Tell us all about it and how you shot it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjordan78 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Would have put this in the Roundabout stage section but didnt know if anyone would see it. Why does everyone shoot Roundabout 1-2-3-4-S or 1-2-4-3-S. Seemed like it was faster for me going 4-3-1-2-S. Transition on last 3 targets seemed easier as they appear closer. Just wondering. Fairly new to the game and trying to learn! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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