waktasz Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share Posted April 4, 2010 My new barrel for my open just came in the mail. Now I'm thinking do I really want to do this. Wow if the new one is the one on the left that is just messed up. Most 6" guns are running bushing barrels and not bulls these days, its a weight thing, Benny puts them on a diet and trims all the fat off of them. Get a Redding Grx and forget about the buldge, just shoot the snot out of it. I don't think this amount of bulge is safe. Funny thing is when I got this gun I wasn't reloading yet and shooting factory ammo. I wasn't picking up brass so I never noticed until I starting loading. It ran everything and never hiccuped but these cases scare the crap out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) uote name='waktasz' date='03 April 2010 - 09:46 PM' timestamp='1270349218' post='1186381'] My new barrel for my open just came in the mail. Now I'm thinking do I really want to do this. Wow if the new one is the one on the left that is just messed up. Most 6" guns are running bushing barrels and not bulls these days, its a weight thing, Benny puts them on a diet and trims all the fat off of them. Get a Redding Grx and forget about the buldge, just shoot the snot out of it. I don't think this amount of bulge is safe. Funny thing is when I got this gun I wasn't reloading yet and shooting factory ammo. I wasn't picking up brass so I never noticed until I starting loading. It ran everything and never hiccuped but these cases scare the crap out of me. Now that is some ugly brass. I'm with you on this one. I have had cases split in the 40 and I've blown the tops off, no damage but it didn't do much for my scores. Edited April 18, 2010 by Flexmoney http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=104826 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 quote name='waktasz' date='03 April 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1270349218' post='1186381'] My new barrel for my open just came in the mail. Now I'm thinking do I really want to do this. Wow if the new one is the one on the left that is just messed up. Most 6" guns are running bushing barrels and not bulls these days, its a weight thing, Benny puts them on a diet and trims all the fat off of them. Get a Redding Grx and forget about the buldge, just shoot the snot out of it. I don't think this amount of bulge is safe. Funny thing is when I got this gun I wasn't reloading yet and shooting factory ammo. I wasn't picking up brass so I never noticed until I starting loading. It ran everything and never hiccuped but these cases scare the crap out of me. Wow! That makes "Glocked" brass look good! Sorry, I'm no help on how to fix the problem, but everything I've ever heard about Benny H's work, is that he's the best. I say send it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Wheaton Jr Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 (edited) Looking at the pics it appears the feedramp was milled off the barrel which is why it appears shorter than the other one. That barrel is scrapped and will never function properly. Replace it again. Good luck. Edited April 5, 2010 by Robbie Wheaton Jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share Posted April 5, 2010 What does a new, unfitted barrel look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 That is some really bad looking brass. Just box it up and ship it to Benny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 What does a new, unfitted barrel look like? It really depends since they're not all the same. I don't think that barrel has had the ramp milled shorter, I think it simply started out not going back as far as the original barrel did. If you take a new STI barrel and compare it to say a KKM or Schuemann, the STI ramp doesn't extend back nearly as far, which is probably why they've had some issues in .40 Trojans. Matt McLearn was the one that told me to compare ramps and once you put them next to each other, it's pretty obvious. I've never held a SL 1911 that I can recall, so I have no idea if that ramp is typical of how they make them, but it would be pretty involved to cut it short, then redo the profile etc....and I can't imagine why anybody would actually do that. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 If you go to Storm Lake's site and build a barrel, then click on the "View in 3D" button, the ramp looks like your original barrel (without the crazy throating), extending back so it's about even with—or a little past—the hood, unlike your "new" barrel. http://www.stormlakebarrel.com/barrels Both barrels are trashed. The "'smith" that did the SL barrel owes you a barrel and shipping charges. If he's uncooperative, I hope you put it on your credit card so that you can take it up with them. IMO guns should feed factory ammo (even if, like Open guns, they won't [quite] run on it). My Benny Hill Fat Free .40 digests everything it's fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 You live in PA and that is where EGW is located. Call them. It is an easy thing to do and get it done right. There are others that can do a great job also. As Gman mentioned, McLearn does a great job. He is very easy to deal with, even if he was Canadian. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Paul: There is nothing with Canadians I am one and we have much better beer and hockey teams Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share Posted April 5, 2010 You live in PA and that is where EGW is located. Call them. It is an easy thing to do and get it done right. There are others that can do a great job also. As Gman mentioned, McLearn does a great job. He is very easy to deal with, even if he was Canadian. :-) Guess who did that barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta Lover Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 call Virgil Tripp at Tripp Industries )or google Cobra Mag) and see if he can weld it up for you He rewelded a ramp on an STI trojan for me for $75 plus SH and it is perfect Either him or EGW would be a good place to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 EGW doesn't do smith work anymore, and even if they did, the gun has been there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNDOCTA Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Wow, this is the reason I learned how to do this stuff myself. I've gotten to the point that there are maybe three people I would even try to have fit a barrel for me. To the OP, have you checked with EGW, Benny Hill or Matt Cheeley on the cost and feasability of fixing the ramp on that new Storm Lake and compared that to having one of these three fit a new Storm Lake? I have a Storm Lake in my 6" STI and really like the barrel. If the cost of fixing this barrel is anywhere close to just fitting a new Storm Lake or Schuemann I would just go with a new barrel. BTW, if the "gunsmith" (I use this word loosely) isn't willing to foot the bill to have a real gunsmith fix this and they are in the same state as you I suggest filing a small claims suit against the "person." Chris I know of EGW- Bennys work but who is Matt these are issues way past an amature ability. Find a good gunsmith!! Good advise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 Matt Cheely makes some of the prettiest guns I've seen anywhere. Unfortunately this gun is going to have to sit in the safe as situations have changed a lot since I sent it in way back in September and I can't afford to send it out for another new barrel. Once my new company takes off I'll find someone to fix it up but until then I guess I will shoot my M&P if anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNDOCTA Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I sent the whole gun in and he ordered the parts and installed them. When I sent it back the second time I send both barrels with it When i sent back the second time WRONG! ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNDOCTA Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 huh? you said it matt cheely! I Fix his so called hand made guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 (edited) huh? When you get a chance, send it off to Clark... he can weld it up and recut it for you. There are a lot of people who claim to be "gunsmiths," very few are. I think welding is $60. I'd give him a call and see what it will take, so you know where you are at. If I had the cash, I would have him "accurize" it too. JT Edited April 17, 2010 by JThompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 My 6" .40 Bull bbl weighs an ounce less than my 9mm 6" bushing bbl gun. All else being the same?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Dust cover is cut out on the bull bbl gun and the bushing bbl gun DC is lightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Wow, this is the reason I learned how to do this stuff myself. I've gotten to the point that there are maybe three people I would even try to have fit a barrel for me. To the OP, have you checked with EGW, Benny Hill or Matt Cheeley on the cost and feasability of fixing the ramp on that new Storm Lake and compared that to having one of these three fit a new Storm Lake? I have a Storm Lake in my 6" STI and really like the barrel. If the cost of fixing this barrel is anywhere close to just fitting a new Storm Lake or Schuemann I would just go with a new barrel. BTW, if the "gunsmith" (I use this word loosely) isn't willing to foot the bill to have a real gunsmith fix this and they are in the same state as you I suggest filing a small claims suit against the "person." Chris I know of EGW- Bennys work but who is Matt these are issues way past an amature ability. Find a good gunsmith!! Good advise! huh? you said it matt cheely! I Fix his so called hand made guns One minute you don't know who he is and the next you're fixing "his so called hand made guns"? Doesn't add up to me. I think Matt is pretty well known around here and his reputation speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Stay on topic, please. No battles here. - Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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