Rich406

I wish I didn’t have 100k+ Winchester spp or I’d switch to cci just for how they work in the PP.

The degree of tinkering really depends on what brand primer you use. From what I’ve read here, CCI and Federal work with minimal fuss in the PP. Its “dirtier” primers like Winchester that give it problems. Winchester absolutely will not run without substantial tinkering. I’ve loaded about 15k with Winchester and I have it down pretty well now. The main selling point to me is zero upside down primers. And for that I will put up with some of the hassle. Now that I have it running it’s really not that bad. But I can see how most people, that pay for a product expect it to work out of that box, and that is not unreasonable.

So I went through and loaded 2500 rounds of winchester spp yesterday. Previously I had to stop and clean the PP every 1500ish rounds. I tried lubing the primers lightly with silicon spray as suggested by Saul. I made it though the entire 2500 without having to clean anything. The speed of the PP was still on the slow side, but it kept up with my press at 2000 RPH on every tube but 1. I don't recall seeing any upside down primers. I'm going to load another 2500 later today without cleaning and see how it goes.

I use the Swage and bullet sensors. I have the decap sensor, but I've never been able to get it to run without a significant number of false positives. The swage sensor will catch any brass that isn't decapped. I also have the primer sensor, but since I refill while the press is running, its a hassle not to set off the sensor at the same time. So most of the time I don't use it.

Turn mine on when I unbag, and off when I bag at the end of the match

I usually replace all the springs at 25k, just cause... that said, I’ve never had any issues with any of the springs.

The last time I delt with anyone was last summer. If they’ve changed that’s great. Hopefully the next time I need help it’s not so disappointing.

Winchester primers need the inside of the bowl and primer channels to be clean and lubed

Does anyone make a comp for the MPX competition pcc. From what I can tell, the factory comp isn’t pinned, but it uses a funky thread pitch.

What brand primers do you use?

I’m at about 11k primers through it. After a lot of fiddling it works, however I have to clean the primer slots ever 1500ish rounds or it runs too slow. I’ve taken it apart about a dozen times now and some of the screws are starting to strip out. I’ve tried cleaning it without disassembly, but I only get another 500 rounds before I need to clean again.

Problem is, it’s doubtful the couple people have been rude have even read all 14 pages of this post to see your warning. There has been a lot of useful info on peoples experiences with different primers in this thead, it would be a shame to punish the majority of people for the actions of 2-3.

I stoped using my F&F shell plate because of this. I still have occasional problems but it’s not nearly as bad. I loaded around 10k rounds this week and broke 3 pins. With the F&F I would occasionally break 3 per 1000.

The guy that made them was pretty much just doing it in his spare time. One day he woke up and decided he didn't want to anymore..

Most 124gr loads with titegroup are around 4 grains. You can double charge with room to spare.

PAL filler isn’t made anymore. There is the vibraprime, which is similar, but not as good.

It’s not the duration of the warranty. With Dillon when you call, someone answerS the phone and you are taken care of immediately. I had to deal with Mark7 twice on defective sensors, took over a month both times to get my issues resolved. things might be different if you have their “premium” support. I don’t.

Every pistol I’ve ever had with a slide mounted red dot has had the brass hit the optic. Multiple Glocks and sig p320s.

In my experiences, Dillons warranty and product support are far better than marks7’s.

A lot of this can depend on your projectile velocity and height of your sight over bore. I Played around with an online calculator when I picked my zero range. http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=[Preset+Name]&presets=30-06+Springfield~30-06+180gr+Sierra+Matchking~G1~0.475~180~2750~100~1.5~0~10~90~~0~59~29.92~50~1~1000~25&df=G1&bc=1.6&bw=147&vi=900&zr=18&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=0&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=1000&ss=5&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel[x%2By]~ft%2Fs&lbl=[Chart+Label]&submitst=+Create+Chart+

the problem is the number of different primer brands out there. They are all slightly different in both size and coatings. From what Ive seen, they only tested with 5-10 different brands.

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yes, this is with a legion.

‘I wish it ran that well with Winchester

Have you tried calling them?