Nimitz Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) Anyone ever attend a SC match where the stop plate target holder sticks were NOT painted red? Just heard that at the WSSC they don't paint them red - apparently it's a "west coast tradition" .....? Zack: Sounds like there needs to be another update put in the rule book before it gets approved .... Edited August 28, 2016 by Nimitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I've never been to a match where I noticed the sticks being painted at all, but then I've only shot matches in the west Why does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Nimitz said: Anyone ever attend a SC match where the stop plate target holder sticks were NOT painted red? Yes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodyAxon Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I don't believe we ever do this at our Steel Challenge matches. If you need to look at the target stands to remember where the stop plate is you're not going to do very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 We did for the Level II match that we held, for the simple reason that it meant that my written stage briefings all simply said "the stop plate is the one with the red paint on the 2x4" instead of having to specify each one differently. We never bother for local matches, and like I said, the ONLY reason we did it for the Level II was because I was lazy. I see no reason why this should need to be a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickT Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 The painted 2x4 below the targets were clearly there to deaden the sound of a low miss that would otherwise hit the steel post. Also provides some additional protection for the post. Normally we just paint the first 6-12 inches of the post below the target white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornetx40 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I have shot matches with a piece of surveyors tape marked the stop plate. A red support is the best way. At the East coast championship they (in the past) take the time to paint all stop supports red and all others are black. Designating the red support as the stop plate really helps the new shooters. and those that don't get to shoot real SCSA matches to often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 11 hours ago, RickT said: The painted 2x4 below the targets were clearly there to deaden the sound of a low miss that would otherwise hit the steel post. Also provides some additional protection for the post. Normally we just paint the first 6-12 inches of the post below the target white I'm thinking---that you are talking about something else. (Or maybe i"m misunderstanding.) The OP (and me too, in my response) wasn't talking about a setup that had metal posts in the first place---the plates are attached to holders that are supported by 2x4s. As such, the coloring is only for stop plate identification. Like this: (this example doesn't have any paint on the stop plate post, obviously) (I'm thinking personally that at a distance, painting both the target white and its metal post stand white would be something I wouldn't like, particularly if it were a steel post that would give the same sound as a plate when hit. No color differentiation between the target and its stand, and same sound? Wouldn't be thrilled with that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottlep Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 No rule saying they have to be red. If you are shooting a Tier 3 "World Championship" and you don't know which plate is the stop plate then you probably have some bigger issues to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmd Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Been to many matches where they were not painted or marked. If I recall the the Worlds were held at Piru the stop plated were 6x6 post to protect the electronics. At out club match we do paint to help identify stop plates to the newer shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtimelarry Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They could paint them Flourescent Green and i wouldn't even notice.. Who Cares.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornetx40 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Its not a bad idea. If you aren't growing your sport it will stagnate and die a slow death. So helping new shooters is never a bad thing. All you need is some way to designate the stop plate even just a red mark below the target will do. You don't have to go to the extent that some clubs do...but it sure makes for nice looking stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickT Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 The OP specifically referenced the WSSC. Every (metal) post had 2 feet of black painted 2x4 hanging below the plate. The home club doesn't use these in their monthly matches so it's logical to assume that all five posts were so-treated to help differentiate a post hit from a target hit. Probably more of a benefit to the competitor than the officials since after the fact one has the target to examine. This requirement could have come either from USPSA or the local folks. I'll ask (locally) at the next match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I assume that the people that do not paint the stop plate 2x4 red only use the standard SC stages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Painting the stop post was discussed with the MD prior to the match starting. It's the first match I've attended where the stop plate post was not painted or some how marked to indicate it was the stop plate. I know of at least two shooters that didn't know which plate was the stop plate at WSSC. I have a list of 10 - 15 items that we (USPSA) will be working on based on how things went at WSSC this year. Donna and I had a great time working and shooting the match. I got to put faces with several names and got to spend over an hour discussing the history of steel challenge with High Senior Winner Jim O'Young. I'm sure there will be good things coming for Steel Challenge and WSSC just give us some time to work on 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 3 hours ago, RaylanGivens said: I assume that the people that do not paint the stop plate 2x4 red only use the standard SC stages? Why? If it isn't a standard stage, the stop plate would be clearly listed in the WSB. Up to the competitor to shoot it correctly. I can see why some would paint it....but it certainly isn't necessary or a requirement. (Nor do I think it should be, personally.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetback Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I've always painted the STOP PLATE post red at my matches. New shooters don't always know which one it is in the heat of a string.Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Now that we are an official Steel Challenge club, all plates are white and the stop plate post is yellow.The use of yellow harkens back to when we only had Outlaw matches. Back then they painted the actual plate yellow, so it kind of stuck.We have a large number of shooters each match who are unfamiliar with the Steel Challenge stages, so it helps to just say, always shoot the plate on the yellow post last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killab Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Match this past Saturday, one of the guys in our squad...."Quote of the day from someone on our squad..... new shooter on the second stage after he shot the stop plate prior to finishing... "Was there a stop plate on that last stage?"side note: He did an excellent job all day (except for that run) " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelie777 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 At all of the steel matches I run, we paint the post red just below the stop plate. It can be painted or not, to me personally no be deal. But to assist all of our shooters, and we do get many new ones, it is a common courtesy that our club provides. I also guess I have all of our local help trained so if I forget, they come and ask as I always have red paint available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Looks like the rulebook will be updated to make it optional to paint the stop plate stick red or some other color but indicate that doing this is a "best practice" and should be encouraged ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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