bkeeler Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Just curious, why is there a B zone on a metric target if it scores the same as the C zone? BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Just curious, why is there a B zone on a metric target if it scores the same as the C zone?BK It used to be that a B was a tie-breaker, but not any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck223 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What's a Metric Target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) What's a Metric Target? The non-classic target (ETA: The one with the head) Edited October 20, 2009 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Just curious, why is there a B zone on a metric target if it scores the same as the C zone?BK It used to be that a B was a tie-breaker, but not any more. It's not? How do they break a tie now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The score can stand as a tie, or can be broken by some shooting determined contest, but not by chance (I believe this is in the rules). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 See rule 9.3.1..... In the unlikely event of a tie in match score, some form of shoot-off takes place, to determine match standing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What's a Metric Target? The non-classic target (ETA: The one with the head) He knows what it is Chuck ........ notice the frowny / angry icon at the end of the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What's a Metric Target? The non-classic target (ETA: The one with the head) He knows what it is Chuck ........ notice the frowny / angry icon at the end of the question? What is he mad about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What is he mad about? I dont know ......... Living in Canada? Not having a choice of which targets they use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What is he mad about? I dont know ......... Living in Canada? Not having a choice of which targets they use? I get it. IPSC dude. I keep forgetting that Canada is in Europe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Anybody find it amusing that the adjective "Classic", a term my old fashioned mind associates with the old and original, is associated with the latest version of the target, and the "Metric" targetl which is spec'd in cms, is used (exclusively?) in the good old US of A, where we dearly love our inches? (No political rants, please ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 The metric thing always throws me. I keep wanting to refer to the Turtle / Amoeba targets as the Metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Another interesting fact about the metric target is that the overall outside width is 45 cm and the width of the area within the 0.5 cm scoring border is 45 cm. There seems to be some sort of alternate universe thing going on there. If you don't believe me, look at the drawing in Appendix B3 of the rulebook. Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'm surprised no one has mentioned the upper A zone being synonymous with "ocular window". Considering the martial roots of the sport could it be that the founders simply called it the B zone to accentuate the added value of an OW hit? It's true the B zone used to be used as a tie breaker, but does that really explain why it exists in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'm surprised no one has mentioned the upper A zone being synonymous with "ocular window". Considering the martial roots of the sport could it be that the founders simply called it the B zone to accentuate the added value of an OW hit?It's true the B zone used to be used as a tie breaker, but does that really explain why it exists in the first place? HeHe He said ocular window. Rest of post edited for "combat language" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Another interesting fact about the metric target is that the overall outside width is 45 cm and the width of the area within the 0.5 cm scoring border is 45 cm. There seems to be some sort of alternate universe thing going on there. If you don't believe me, look at the drawing in Appendix B3 of the rulebook. Later, Chuck I had to find my book to beleive this. Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'm surprised no one has mentioned the upper A zone being synonymous with "ocular window". Considering the martial roots of the sport could it be that the founders simply called it the B zone to accentuate the added value of an OW hit?It's true the B zone used to be used as a tie breaker, but does that really explain why it exists in the first place? So calling two "OW's" equals 10 points??............I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Anybody find it amusing that the adjective "Classic", a term my old fashioned mind associates with the old and original, is associated with the latest version of the target, and the "Metric" targetl which is spec'd in cms, is used (exclusively?) in the good old US of A, where we dearly love our inches? (No political rants, please ) The metric thing always throws me. I keep wanting to refer to the Turtle / Amoeba targets as the Metrics. +1 & +2 You'll love this then... When I sent the stages into IPSC for the USA IPSC Nationals...I found out that IPSC doesn't use either target (name). There is no "Classic" nor "Metric" target in IPSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 The metric thing always throws me. I keep wanting to refer to the Turtle / Amoeba targets as the Metrics. Tell me about it, the "Classic" target is used in countries on the metric system but the "Metric" target is used in the US which isn't on the metric system. Esplain dat one to me Lucy. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) You'll love this then...When I sent the stages into IPSC for the USA IPSC Nationals...I found out that IPSC doesn't use either target (name). There is no "Classic" nor "Metric" target in IPSC. Hi, that is correct, in IPSC there is only one target today. The old "Classic" target has become the "IPSC" target, the only recognized paper target, and from 1st of January 2010 there will be a smaller version (2/3 size) also approved, but not mixed together with the fullsize target on a stage, due to political considerations ........ To me the name "Metric" target never made any sense or connection with reality even if the target itself has that.... Edited October 21, 2009 by RogerT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwoods Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I thought that the "B" was scored as "A" when scoring. I have had a stage or two where you had to do head shots and the "A" was what you needed to hit. If you hit the "B", it would be scored differently. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I thought that the "B" was scored as "A" when scoring. Nope, 4/3 - Major/Minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck223 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 The metric thing always throws me. I keep wanting to refer to the Turtle / Amoeba targets as the Metrics. Tell me about it, the "Classic" target is used in countries on the metric system but the "Metric" target is used in the US which isn't on the metric system. Esplain dat one to me Lucy. Joe W. Sort of like how you drive on a parkway, but park on a driveway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 The B-Zone is there for the same reasons the C/D zones are. The thought process was a peripheral hit on the target would not be as devastating as a center of mass hit. As far as the naming of the Metric target, if you research the first draft of the IPSC rules that were posted here, the target was referred as the metric target since the beginning of the IPSC rules. Prior to that there were a number of variations of targets used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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