Guest qstick Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 I am having trouble retaining a solid grip on my para. When I was shooting a production XD, I had the grip covered in grip tape and loved it, but I can;t seem to get skateboard, stair or any other grip tape to stick to the panels of the para grip. I was hoping Scott made grip panels similair to the SVI grips they make, but I couldn't find any info on them. Anyone have any ideas of what would stick, or what I could do to make the grip a little tackier? Thanks, Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Look here http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...=0entry104566 If you like skateboard or 3M pool&patio tape, bear in mind it wont stick to checkering. Nothing does. Maybe buy a 2nd pair of Para grips & sand off all the checkering, clean it with alcohol or MEK, and try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Don't know if you've tried AGrip or not, but due to the adhesive used and the wrap around design, it will stick and stay on the Para grip. If you're not familiar with it, learn more here: http://www.cpwsa.com/AGrip.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Got a better solution. Stipple the grips with a saudering iron. I did it to mine and love it. Just be easy. It doesn't take much and the grips are thin. It makes them very sharp and grippy. If you go to deep with the iron it will warp the grips and they won't lay flat on the frame. I wish I had pictures to show. I love mine. I got tired of grip tape. It ends up simular to S_I grips that have been done the same way. TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 http://www.jerrybarnhart.com/bpp.htm Doesn't list it on the site, but I could have sworn I saw them listed for Para in an ad somewhere. Wouldn't hurt to give a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Some just take off the Para grip panels and then wrap up the metal in grip tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyFL Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 I agree with Flex. I shot a P-16 for years without the grips on. When you take off the grip there is wierd right angle on the grip and a hole in the frame by the trigger bow. Guncraft sells a "grip filler" for this and it is perfect. Once taking off the grips, install the grip fillers and it nicely rounds off the rear of the grip. Then you can wrap the whole grip in whatever tape you prefer. I always liked the stair tread tape. Also I used to super glue the corners down and it always stayed in place. This matched with an S&A magwell was a great setup. I don't have a link to Guncraft, but their grip filler things were in Brownells last time I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Moore Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 i too have removed my grip panels and applied skateboard tape to the raw metal, it works just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmark Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 I used spray adhesive to coat both my grip panels, (with them off the gun of course!) then sprinkled some fine sandblasting sand on them. Then after everything cured, I brushed the loose sand off, spray painted the grips black, and recoated with sand while the paint was still wet. One more coat of paint, and everything was just ducky. It makes a surface like skateboard tape and is pretty durable. Since it builds out the grip a little, you may want to remove some material behind the mag release on the left grip panel before you start. This will make it easier to hit the mag release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDoc Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 It really all depends on the size of your hand. Small hand, remove the grips and grip tape the frame. Large hands, grip tape over the grips or replace them with something larger. For me, I had my grips stippled like TXAG suggested. Matt Trout took his soldering iron too mine about five years ago and they still work great. Doc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 I really like the grip removed-tape the frame approach as it makes me feel I have more control of the gun but everyone has a different favorite feel. The really nice thing about taping the frame is that you can do any color that skateboard tape is made. Mine are currently red, but I might just change for spring to match my shoes and handbag. By the way can you actually remove the grips for production? I thought it was a no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Is the Para an LDA? If not, it won't work in production. Wasn't stated origanally. TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I've got an old para, you know the ones that feel like a 2x2 in your hand. I took the stock grips and sanded them down as thin as I dared, and put skate board tape on, never had a problem with them coming off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qstick Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Wow---thanks for all the great ideas. I am hoping to leave the grip panels on the gun since my hands are fairly large. I have played around with the gun without the panels on, and it doesn;t feel secure in my hands. One other question...if I put skateboard tape on the front strap, can I run it a little longer and put the tape under the grip panels, using the pressure of the grips to help keep it secure? Thanks again for all the great ideas, Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Gstick, another approach. I used a set of carbon fiber grips from Carbon Creations, really agressive checkering and put skate tape on the front strap(ran it under the grips. These grips have quite a bit of swell and should work well with your large hands. They are a little pricey but the gun is like grabing a hand full of fish hooks and look good too. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I liked the idea of putting the tape under the panels. I put stair non-skid tape on the front and wraped it under the panels. Then cut out the tape to fit inside the outline of the grip panels. Being kind of sunk into the grip panels helped keep it from coming off. I ran it like that for 2 years without any problems. Now I need to sell it since it just sits in a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmark Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I use skateboard tape on the front and rear strap, and the pressure from the grip panels is sufficient to keep the tape tight enough to keep the grip safety depressed. One year so far with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Zach, have you tried the checkered rubber grip panels made for the Para by Pierce grips? I have a set on mine and they have just the right amount of tackiness for me. They are available for $15.00 at the para proshop. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qstick Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Hi Larry--- I didn;t realize the grips were available. I have tried to look up the para pro shop on the internet a few times recently and always get the message that the site is under construction. I thought that the pro shop was located in Pennsylvania....any idea? I guess I will call the factory in the morning and try and get a phone number....for $15, I might as well try them Thanks!!!!!!! Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 You can also order them direct from http://www.pearcegrip.com/index.htm These have either wrap around finger grooves or just a straight panel over the front strap. I dont like anything over the front strap of the frame so I trimmed them with an exacto knife. They needed some additional trimming with a Dremel tool to fit under the dawson magwell that I have on my Dawson P14. Smith and Alexander at http://www.smithandalexander.com/index.htm make some very high quality checkered wooden grips for the Para as well. Happy shopping........Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianATL Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 I really like the grip removed-tape the frame approach as it makes me feel I have more control of the gun but everyone has a different favorite feel. The really nice thing about taping the frame is that you can do any color that skateboard tape is made. Mine are currently red, but I might just change for spring to match my shoes and handbag. By the way can you actually remove the grips for production? I thought it was a no-no. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does anyone have a template for covering the frame of P-16 with grip tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 One other question...if I put skateboard tape on the front strap, can I run it a little longer and put the tape under the grip panels, using the pressure of the grips to help keep it secure? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Zach, I do that on my limited and open guns and it works fine. The SB tape on the front strap with the factory stocks works fine for me. Sometime I will try ProGrip on my hands just to see if it makes a difference but things are pretty stable now. Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddrod Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 I use the 3mm bathtub tape sold at Home Depot and it sticks very well right on top of my factory grip panels. Trick is to clean the grips well of any oils, skin and dirt from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerjg Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 i used to use stair tred tape on my Para when i had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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