lugnut Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Hmmm. I use 4.1gr Clays, 230gr Berrys, 1.265", Fed Primers with my 4" 625. If I recall (don't have numbers from my chrono runs) and I think I was just over major. I shoot it in IDPA so I didn't do the "tilt the muzzle up" before shooting it though- not sure if that makes a huge difference in a 45. I may bump it up to 4.2gr for the Indoor Nats... not sure. I don't seem to recall much difference with Clays and N320 with a Berry 230gr. Did anyone else notice anything? I shot this load indoors last week and didn't notice much flash at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.343 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I run 3.8 Clays with lead 230 and 4.2 Clays with Zero 230. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71Commander Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I run 3.8 Clays with lead 230 and 4.2 Clays with Zero 230. That's funny. Every barrel is different. My 5" 625 needs 4.0 of Clays using a 230 LRN @1.240 to make major. Then it's only a 168 PF. At A6 a few years back, I used all 8 bullets to get a 165.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It is surprising how much variation there is from gun to gun. I'm sure crimp and some other things have a minor impact as well. I'll test this again and also 4.2gr and see where I end up. I do know I have two G34s that are different. The one that I used a LOT was over 25 slower if I recall. I guess barrels can vary..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.343 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I run 3.8 Clays with lead 230 and 4.2 Clays with Zero 230. That's funny. Every barrel is different. My 5" 625 needs 4.0 of Clays using a 230 LRN @1.240 to make major. Then it's only a 168 PF. At A6 a few years back, I used all 8 bullets to get a 165.6 It sure is funny. I get 170-175pf from those loads. My gun is only three years old. Have you guys noticed a change in power factor as your round count increases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4mike Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) That's funny. Every barrel is different. My 5" 625 needs 4.0 of Clays using a 230 LRN @1.240 to make major. Then it's only a 168 PF. At A6 a few years back, I used all 8 bullets to get a 165.6 It sure is funny. I get 170-175pf from those loads. My gun is only three years old. Have you guys noticed a change in power factor as your round count increases? none significant (if at all) decrease of PF at my guns in the tens of thousands rounds 3,5 BA10 or 4,2 N310, 225LRNBB (saeco molds)1,145 OAL more funny differences are betveen chrony Edited December 20, 2011 by 4mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earplug Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Seating depth will effect velocity. I have gotten 177 PF with only 3.7 grains of Clays using a home cast LEE 228 bullet. Its a strange 1 radius round nose that I was having a hard time to feed in a 1911. I kept pushing them deeper in the cases. Somewhere between bulged and too long is a sweet spot. The EDM rifling has worked well for me with slightly oversize bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Shooter Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Talking with Olhasso at the Memphis Charity Challenge and he said he was using 3.1 (yes, three point one) Clays under Bayou Bullets 230s. Loaded short, like 1.20", minimum cylinder gap and tight, Douglas 6 inch barel but still makes Major. That thing had almost no muzzle blast BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Talking with Olhasso at the Memphis Charity Challenge and he said he was using 3.1 (yes, three point one) Clays under Bayou Bullets 230s. Loaded short, like 1.20", minimum cylinder gap and tight, Douglas 6 inch barel but still makes Major. That thing had almost no muzzle blast BTW. Only 3.1 of Clays and still make major? That's a little hard to imagine. Is he using cut-down or GAP brass, by any chance? And did they actually chrono everybody's ammo at the Memphis match? Edited December 21, 2011 by Carmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Talking with Olhasso at the Memphis Charity Challenge and he said he was using 3.1 (yes, three point one) Clays under Bayou Bullets 230s. Loaded short, like 1.20", minimum cylinder gap and tight, Douglas 6 inch barel but still makes Major. That thing had almost no muzzle blast BTW. Only 3.1 of Clays and still make major? That's a little hard to imagine. Is he using cut-down or GAP brass, by any chance? And did they actually chrono everybody's ammo at the Memphis match? No they did not chrono at the MCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Talking with Olhasso at the Memphis Charity Challenge and he said he was using 3.1 (yes, three point one) Clays under Bayou Bullets 230s. Loaded short, like 1.20", minimum cylinder gap and tight, Douglas 6 inch barel but still makes Major. That thing had almost no muzzle blast BTW. Only 3.1 of Clays and still make major? That's a little hard to imagine. Is he using cut-down or GAP brass, by any chance? And did they actually chrono everybody's ammo at the Memphis match? Yeah, I don't care what kind of 230gr bullets he as using- there's no way that load would make major. Maybe he was messing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I loaded some 230 Bayou Bullets with 3.2 Clays at 1.135 oal and got 720f/s, or less. Had to go up to get 170pf consistently. That was with a 5" Stock PC625. With 1.2 oal and a .45acp 4.1 clays would make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Shooter Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Talking with Olhasso at the Memphis Charity Challenge and he said he was using 3.1 (yes, three point one) Clays under Bayou Bullets 230s. Loaded short, like 1.20", minimum cylinder gap and tight, Douglas 6 inch barel but still makes Major. That thing had almost no muzzle blast BTW. Only 3.1 of Clays and still make major? That's a little hard to imagine. Is he using cut-down or GAP brass, by any chance? And did they actually chrono everybody's ammo at the Memphis match? He was using Federal .45 ACP brass. Maybe it's the green coating on Donnie's bullets that makes em go faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDPMatt Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I run 3.8 Clays with lead 230 and 4.2 Clays with Zero 230. That's funny. Every barrel is different. My 5" 625 needs 4.0 of Clays using a 230 LRN @1.240 to make major. Then it's only a 168 PF. At A6 a few years back, I used all 8 bullets to get a 165.6 It sure is funny. I get 170-175pf from those loads. My gun is only three years old. Have you guys noticed a change in power factor as your round count increases? Yep, 3.8gr for me too.... 230gr LRN@1.22= 172PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovbuild Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Some times I scare myself....625 pin load is 220 PF...Shooting some of the posted loads my gun would feel like a 22.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicycle Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Some times I scare myself....625 pin load is 220 PF...Shooting some of the posted loads my gun would feel like a 22.... Big Pin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtorre Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 has anyone made major power factor using a sw 625 JM (4 inch) and Tite Group, pushing a 230 RN bullet. what was your powder load... Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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