olp73 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 How hard are kydex holsters on a guns finish? Better or worse than leather? I am planning to use it together with a CZ75 SP-01. Any experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) kydex is pretty rough on a gun's finish..after about 4-6 months of a good dryfire routine and matches it will begin to take the polycoat off on the leading edges where there is contact. Edited January 19, 2009 by eerw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvb Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 It's said that chicks dig scars. Did you buy it to race it or show it? Don't race your show car and dont sweat the fenders on your race car. -rvb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 It's said that chicks dig scars.Did you buy it to race it or show it? Don't race your show car and dont sweat the fenders on your race car. -rvb +1 Guns need character. Make it look like you actually use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganShootist Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I wore 90% of the finish off the slide of a Kimber using a blade tech holster for IDPA. I know several companies make a lined kydex rig. That always sounded like a good idea. If you have a hard chrome finish or a Glock you needn't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideload Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Kydex wears faster but "stops" at a certain point when all the highspots have worn off. It's easier to keep clean and prevent further wear once you get to that point. Leather will be slower to wear but it will continue to wear away at the finish for the life of the holster. Plus, even with regular cleaning, sand, hard grit or other abrasive material may get embedded in the leather and that will acelerate the wear. Depending on your environment, suede lined leather may even be worse as it traps more sand and dirt on its surface. Regardless of what you select, if you are intending to use it as a competion gun, it will wear. Wear on a gun like that means you are using it to get better. If it really bugs you, you can get the gun refinished after you have the gun set up exactly the way you want it, with one of the harder coatings like hard chrome or ion bond. Alternatively, shoot USPSA Limited/Limited 10 with your SP01 using a race holster that just covers the trigger guard (and deal with shooting minor with a 9mm/or lower mag capacity shooting .40 in limited). ****Quick edit**** Just saw that you are posting from Norway -- assume you will be shooting by IPSC rules where you can use a race holster in Production Division -- so you can ignore the USPSA reference Edited January 19, 2009 by Wideload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDRODA396 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If visible wear is an issue, get your gun IonBonded and be done with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Kydex wears faster but "stops" at a certain point when all the highspots have worn off. Do you measure that in years or decades? I haven't found an end to it after a nearly a year. Kydex scatches and polishes hard chrome, good Tripp Research hard chrome. If visible wear is an issue, get your gun IonBonded and be done with it! Someone please post a picture of your IonBond slide after months of diligent dry fire practice out of a Kydex belt holster. Then and only then will I believe the IonBond hype. I want to believe. Truly I do. I'd love to have my slide redone in something akin to kryptonite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Shoot it and stop worrying about it is my take. Did you buy it for show, or go? All holsters wear the finish if used enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 A gun that doesn't show any holster wear is a gun that doesn't get shot very much. I kinda feel sorry for 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunnr Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 yeah it will wear the slide etc..but even pretty girls get dirty.. race it and dont sweat it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDRODA396 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) Someone please post a picture of your IonBond slide after months of diligent dry fire practice out of a Kydex belt holster. Then and only then will I believe the IonBond hype. I want to believe. Truly I do. I'd love to have my slide redone in something akin to kryptonite. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...6597&st=250 Start at post #269, the Edge was mine. I've sold it and taken to tupperware, but when I sold it, the finish looked like I picked it up the day before...had it done in Greensboro, NC by Ryan. During that period, I was religous about my dry fire, minimum three times a week, using Steve Anderson's book and doing a minimum of 12 of the various drills. I wish I could find that kind of dedication and time these days! Edited January 20, 2009 by CDRODA396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Someone please post a picture of your IonBond slide after months of diligent dry fire practice out of a Kydex belt holster. Then and only then will I believe the IonBond hype. I want to believe. Truly I do. I'd love to have my slide redone in something akin to kryptonite. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...6597&st=250 Start at post #269, the Edge was mine. I've sold it and taken to tupperware, but when I sold it, the finish looked like I picked it up the day before...had it done in Greensboro, NC by Ryan. During that period, I was religous about my dry fire, minimum three times a week, using Steve Anderson's book and doing a minimum of 12 of the various drills. I wish I could find that kind of dedication and time these days! Thanks that's pretty convincing out of a full coverage holster. Can they IonBond over chrome or will the chrome have to be removed first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDRODA396 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure they can coat right over any surface, but that same thread has contact info for several people doing it right now, I think Springer, Millinium and IonBond are all doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHjr Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I have both kydex and premium leather for different platforms.... the finish on my P229 using a Kramer wore off very easily. My P225 in/out of a CompTac also wore quickly and then seemed to not get any worse. I have a XD in/out of a ComTac for two hard seasons of match and range play and it looks fantastic with only the slightest muzzle wear and no wear on the sides of the slide. I have a HK USP/kydex combo that has worn very little in one season of steady use ...... keeping a holster clean regardless of material type will prolong finish wear greatly. SIG's finish is very whimpy .... XD's wear very well ... It's all good character building traits ...... Harold H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I have a Hellweg kydex holster that is suede lined. I use it for my Wilson SG 1911 and have no holster wear on it. I occasionally spray the inside with pure silicone. Hellweg holsters are available from Brownells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 If you have a hard chrome finish or a Glock you needn't worry. Unfortunately, even Tenifer will show holster wear. At least all my Glocks do, and I use Kydex. When I shot Limited I had a bead blasted hard chrome job. It eventually showed wear at the contact points with my race rig (granted not much, but it was there). I'd think that ANY finish will wear with the use it will get in action shooting, especially under the conditions we shoot (hot, dusty, dirty, gritty, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenchu74 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 How does kydex treat stainless steel? I know there's no finish to wear off but does it scratch it up, i've got a stainless cz75b I plan to use in production and am looking for a holster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry273 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 what I have found with stainless is scratching initially, then moving on to become shiny spots.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinMike Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Unfortunately, even Tenifer will show holster wear. At least all my Glocks do, and I use Kydex. The Tenifer doesn't wear off, it's the black oxide finish on top of the Tenifer that wears off. Tenifer is a process that hardens steel and is pretty much fused to the metal. Pretty darn close to diamond hard from what I've read. At any rate, I don't really care what my competition guns look like as long as they run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 At any rate, I don't really care what my competition guns look like as long as they run. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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