usp45ss Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I'm in the process of building up a dedicated 3 gun rifle. Now I'm at the point of picking a trigger to go with. I understand JP is very popular with the 3 gun crowd. Is there any benefit to going with the modular unit over the traditional style? I guess what I'm asking is what will the $279 modular unit do that the traditional style won't do? Will the traditional style be a little harder to set up initially? Anything else? Also, anybody out there using the Gold trigger system? I see that Miculek is now using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 The JP trigger is a good design and has a lot of adjustability to it. If you are fairly mechanically inclined, it's not hard to install. If you're not, like me, the modular allows you to get a trigger by mail and drop it in without messing with it. If you have to pay a gunsmith to install a JP trigger or ship it somewhere, the extra cost for the modular is a wash. As far as the Gold I saw one at the Ft. Benning 3 Gun. Looked OK. There was a sharp edge on the trigger that was supposed to be fixed in later production models. It's a completely different trigger mechanism. It's kind of cool that they can change it that completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebg3 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I've got several Jard adj. triggers and I like them a lot. I do have a C.M. modular straight trigger and it is simple and OK but not as light as my Jards. For the price, the Jard is hard to beat. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Years ago somebody brought out a Gold Trigger system for Perazzi shotguns. Everybody was hyping the trigger as something unbelievable. I don't think it is made any longer. The Chip McCormick and Timney modular triggers feel good and both have worked out the bugs from the original run. I am going to try one of the two on my next build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooddog Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I have a single stage JP in my regular 16" 3-gun for run and gun and out to 200 yards and a 2 stage Geissele in my 20" Bull Barrel DPMS Tack Driver 200 yards and beyond. I like them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I won one of the American Trigger Corp AR Gold triggers at Multigun Nats this year and it has been in my comp. rifle since then. It is the best drop in and trigger I have used to date. It is also full adjustable and totally reliable down to 1.25#. I like it alot. All except for the price tag of $279. I would not have paid that for it but now that I have one and used it for 2000 rounds I would. Very well made and reliable unit. Feels like a well tuned 1911 trigger. Very slight pretravel with a nice crisp creep free break and no overtravel with a super short reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle O Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I dropped the extra for a timney 3lb single stage, and couldn't be happier. I also did it for the 15min of day it cost me to install. Time is worth the money for me, as I don't have a lot of extra. It feels good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JQ- Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Feels like a well tuned 1911 trigger. Very slight pretravel with a nice crisp creep free break and no overtravel with a super short reset. This is good to know. Do the other triggers feel like this, 1911-like? That price is a bit steep - but I figure none are going to be cheap...but ouch. I have a RR 2stage but it doesn't feel like I expected it to feel being a "2 Stage". It is very light and clean but more like...light, light, light bang. Rather than the slight pre-travel then crisp bang. I like my 1911, so why wouldn't I like it in a rifle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSteve Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I have a Jard in one rifle, a JP in another, and I got to play with the Gold trigger a little at FB. I don't think anyone would be unhappy with any of them as long as they are properly installed and working as they are supposed to. My Jard is lighter, but the JP is crisper, but you can only tell if you are comparing them side by side. If you shot one today, and the other a couple days later, you would probably have difficulty telling them apart. One thing I think is great, is how things are going modular to make them more "idiot proof". I installed my Jard, but I did it two or three times before I put the loctite to it. I wanted to make sure I had it down pat. Sure would have been nice to just drop her in, put the pins in and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I've triggers from JP in most of my rifles and other than that, I'd go for the Gold. Only downside is the cost, but it is a seriously sweet trigger. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I have one of the Gold triggers on order/ waiting. I picked up one of the Timmy triggers at Fort B tabel and I am very happy with it. I got to be a trigger Snob after useing the Kidd tirggers in my rimfire guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLD Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) I got a new CM this summer to use on my M4 style rifle that I've been shooting in 3 gun. It was free to me (Safety bucks from work) and a HUGE improvement over stock, but very creepy. My stock Kimber trigger is better. I would spend a few extra $$$ to get a better one. Edited January 8, 2009 by TLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Accuracy Speaks is installing their single stage in mine. Based on local recommendations only. Rifle is still weeks away from completion so I have no first hand experience with it. Supposed to be nice. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I thought the Gold trigger was very nice, but at over 2X the cost of a J.P. I just can't justify the cost when in the end they both end up feeling the same. I have thousands and thousands of rounds on the J.P. triggers and have never had any problems so I guess I will stick with J.P. after all they really support 3-gun!!! Kurt Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I have a CM straight trigger, drop-in model and love it. I love the straight trigger over the traditional curved. Mine is not creepy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Accuracy Speaks is installing their single stage in mine. Based on local recommendations only. Rifle is still weeks away from completion so I have no first hand experience with it. Supposed to be nice.Jim I have a couple Accuracy Speaks triggers that are some of the best I've ever used. Jake did them when he was there. They were light enough I wasn't allowed to tell Derek what he set them at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Jimbo Lambo put a Chip Mc in my firebird. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin D Wolverton Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Back when was shooting Highpower... i put a Geissele trigger in my Armalite NM15... all I can say about them is wow... Then I sold the thing... They are on the expensive side though... www.geisselle.com Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JQ- Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 So which of these provide that 1911 feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Just wondering if anyone has any experience with the Alexander Arms Tactical Trigger. Looks interesting but I don't know if it has any practical advantages. From what I have seen on this forum it looks like JP or the Gold trigger would be my top choices. This is my first AR so I am a newb on AR triggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 So which of these provide that 1911 feel? None, I dare say.... Seeing as how the AR pivots on a pin about 3/4" above your finger and the 1911 is horizontal travel. That aside, I'm very happy with the JP's in my sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 So which of these provide that 1911 feel? I don't think any of them will duplicate the feel of a 1911. 2 stage triggers will have a longer "takeup" and a single stage will have no real takeup. Any takeup you'd feel on a single stage is creep. Trust your finger, not your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JQ- Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Seeing as how the AR pivots on a pin about 3/4" above your finger and the 1911 is horizontal travel. duh...I suppose you are right on there...wasn't really thinking about that. I don't think any of them will duplicate the feel of a 1911. 2 stage triggers will have a longer "takeup" and a single stage will have no real takeup. Any takeup you'd feel on a single stage is creep. Trust your finger, not your mind Thanks Dan. I guess that is what I was really asking. My 2 stage is like you describe- long takeup (it has a fairly short reset however). I just looked at JPE's page and they are back ordered for now on their site. I like the idea of the drop in trigger as opposed to doing it myself. The only real tool I have to do it myself is a dremel...and you know where that will get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSteve Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I had my knee scoped a couple weeks ago, and I'm out of work for a while. My father in law gave me a new dremel for Christmas. So, what's a guy to do with no work and a new dremel??? sorry about the thread drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latewatch Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Have JP's (non-modular) in several rifles never had a problem with them. I tried a Jard and didn't like it. I picked up an AR Gold trigger off the prize table at Benning which I've installed but, haven't had a chance to really wring it out yet. My .02 cents: Bottom line it's REAL hard to beat a JP trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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