Rather-B-Huntin Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I'm planning on shooting in Single Stack division next year, and would like opinions on which gun I may use??? I'm gearing towards a Kimber Stainless II chambered in .40 at the moment. I already have a couple of .45's, but am actually looking for something that can pull double duty and shoot in ESP class in IDPA too. And I won't spend more than $1,000.00 on everything (gun, trigger work, new sights). What are your opinions?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I'm planning on shooting in Single Stack division next year, and would like opinions on which gun I may use??? I'm gearing towards a Kimber Stainless II chambered in .40 at the moment. I already have a couple of .45's, but am actually looking for something that can pull double duty and shoot in ESP class in IDPA too. And I won't spend more than $1,000.00 on everything (gun, trigger work, new sights).What are your opinions?? I would look at either a STI Spartan (.45 only) or a STI Trojan which you can get in any caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjbine Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I like the STI Trojan in .40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark cumberland Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I really like my STI Trojan in .40 cal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hello: I like my Kimber Eclipse that was originally a 10mm but now a 40 with a rebarrel. I also had a 9mm barrel for it as well--sold the barrel. The Kimber 9mm pistols can be rebarreled to 40 since the Kimber 9mm has a 40 breach face. Now go out and find one. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 If I didn't have a gun already I would get a STI trojan in .40 if I didn't shoot IDPA if I did then .45. That way you can get a quality pistol and contengency money if you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Well I have been shooting a Kimber in SS and in L10 also for a couple of years. One day at the range I was discussing my Single Stack with Rob L. and I told him I liked my Kimber because it runs. Rob then told me that I should get a gun that runs from a company that REALLY supports the sport (USPSA). He didn't say it should be Springfield but he stressed any company that really supports USPSA. I really started thinking about what he said and I realized how right he was. This is not a knock on Kimber because I like my 1911 but their support of USPSA is little to none while we have companies such as Caspian, Springfield, STI, SV, etc.... that are giving our sport a lot of time, attention, labor, and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterj Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I'm waiting on a Spartan!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 jasmap, I agree completly. I shoot a kimber in SS as well and it runs great but I have also heard that from fellow shooters. I am leaning towards a STI Trojan to replace it currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Caspian, Springfield, STI, SV +100 Those companies have supported our sport for a very long time. Caspian and Springfield the longest of those listed and STI and SVI since they were formed as companies. YOu can even add Dan Wesson, now that CZ is the parent company. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I love my Spartan .... but will be looking to get a Trojan in .40 sometime next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerPast Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Why is .40 recommended so much? I've noticed that the top shooters often do choose the 40, but I don't understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireant Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 (edited) Cheaper BB's and I really loke my Trojan in .40 Edited November 7, 2007 by Fireant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 (edited) Why is .40 recommended so much? I've noticed that the top shooters often do choose the 40, but I don't understand why. Two reasons, If you are already relaoding .40 for limited makes sense to use a .40 in SS. Then you should be able to use the same load in both guns. fewer components to purchase. If you are not reloading .45 then you will be using factory ammo that makes a 190+ pf when those that are reloading are making ~170pf. .40 factory ammo is in the 170pf range. That said, I reload for 9mm, 38Super 40 and 45 makes no difference to me so I use the 45 in singlestack even though I have a 38 Super Singlestack. Alan Edited November 7, 2007 by Alan Meek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear23 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 If you run Limited as well, get the trojan .40. If not, a Spartan in .45 is a great way to go for a good price. It will run fine out of the box and has bo-mar type sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I just went though this and decided on a Trojan in .40. If you buy it from Dawson, they include a fiber optic front sight for free. It will be hard to stay under $1000 since the gun plus shipping (if you don't have anyone local that carries them) is going to be somewhere between $900 and $1000. You'll also need a magwell and some trigger work, but that's about it to get started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtlt Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I have shot the Kimber SSII in 40 cal, thought it shot very well and was a little cheaper than the STI, also a very nice gun. Go with 40 cal because 8 rnds of 40 in the 9 rnd mags most of them come with will be easier to load into the gun than a toped off 8 rnd 45 mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cztn Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Love my Spartan. Bomar style rear sights and FO front come standard and all you need to add is a trigger job. All this and still well under $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerPast Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Another question about 40acp - Do the S.Stack 40's need the ammo to be loaded longer than is considered standard? My Para 16 and everyone I know who shoots a Limited Division double stack 40 acp has to run ammo with a little bit longer overall length. Otherwise, the ammo just doesn't feed 100% reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegot38 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I am going to shoot my S&W DK in 38 super. Same gun I use in IDPA -ESP. I recommend it hightly. (Yes, I know it is minor) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 jasmap, I agree completly. I shoot a kimber in SS as well and it runs great but I have also heard that from fellow shooters. I am leaning towards a STI Trojan to replace it currently. + a bunch! I won't support those that don't support us period! Now I won't give ya flack cause you shoot what ya got...but I expect ya to change in the future lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 jasmap, I agree completly. I shoot a kimber in SS as well and it runs great but I have also heard that from fellow shooters. I am leaning towards a STI Trojan to replace it currently. + a bunch! I won't support those that don't support us period! Now I won't give ya flack cause you shoot what ya got...but I expect ya to change in the future lol Ya I am getting it from both sides, get a trojan!!! stick with the kimber!!!! Of course the one saying get a Trojan is Me and the one saying keep the kimber is the wallet. Of course then there is the dicision of which caliber to get. I have alot of 45 lead around and the dies for it but I do have a fair amount of 40 brass from the ranges collected as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV_shooter Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Used brass is really cheap in .40. I won 1000 once fired cases in an auction for $18.01. It is a bit cheaper than .45. Besides, you might decide to shoot limited someday and .40 will do you right in both scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Single Stack IS .45!!!!!! Need I say more? I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Single Stack IS .45!!!!!!Need I say more? I think not Z I was wondering when you would jump in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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