Neomet Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Figured I would post this here since it is more a revo question than anything else. Texas stars. Definitely not my strong point. I don't think I have ever cleaned them in 6 shots. Given that I am seriously considering coming over to the revo-lution full time I was looking for some insight on how to deal with these given my non-TGO shooting skills. My first guess it to spend more time and be as accurate as possible but when she runs dry its time to move on. With a 3 second reload and no guarantee that I will hit the bloody thing on my next shot it would seem that if I only have one plate left it is better to leave it. Two left, I should probably do the reload and plug away again. Any advice would really be appreciated. I'm just totally lost on this one, other than to practice more whenever they set the TS up for a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Figured I would post this here since it is more a revo question than anything else. Texas stars. Definitely not my strong point. I don't think I have ever cleaned them in 6 shots. Given that I am seriously considering coming over to the revo-lution full time I was looking for some insight on how to deal with these given my non-TGO shooting skills. My first guess it to spend more time and be as accurate as possible but when she runs dry its time to move on. With a 3 second reload and no guarantee that I will hit the bloody thing on my next shot it would seem that if I only have one plate left it is better to leave it. Two left, I should probably do the reload and plug away again. Any advice would really be appreciated. I'm just totally lost on this one, other than to practice more whenever they set the TS up for a match. I've never had the pleasure of shooting one... can't wait to give it a go. If worse comes to worse you need only throw five shots at it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 They are setting one up more frequently at the local match and Area 3 has two.......... on one stage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 They are setting one up more frequently at the local match and Area 3 has two.......... on one stage! I wish we had one at our club... If I get ahead, I would consider buying one for us. I think it would be a hoot. Did I just say hoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I consistently shoot these things in one cylinder full of ammo. You can't go chasing the plates, you need to wait till the plate is about to stop, anticipate it, and break the shot as the plate is stopping. It also depends on distance to the Star, but usually they keep the distance under 15 yards. At that short distance, a slow moving 45 will have no problem making contact and knocking the plate off it. As with anything new, it's a case of experience. Similar to a moving target, you just need experience and the ability to call your shot. There is usually a good way to shoot these things unless the joke.. er stage designer activates it in motion before you start shooting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopalong Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 To really figure one out you need to beat on it a while. typically shoot them from the top down and let gravity keep it pretty well still. If they are counter weighted all bets are off, your time on it at the practice range comes in handy here. They are not hard, only if you make them hard. I have cleaned one that was not spinning in 2.52 from the draw. I did one that was already moving in a little less than that but can't remember the exact time. Find a range that has one and spend a little quality time with it. Hopalong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Oddly enough, sometimes shooting the Texas Star faster actually makes the task easier. They don't have time to get moving if you knock the plates off fast enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 To really figure one out you need to beat on it a while.typically shoot them from the top down and let gravity keep it pretty well still. If they are counter weighted all bets are off, your time on it at the practice range comes in handy here. They are not hard, only if you make them hard. I have cleaned one that was not spinning in 2.52 from the draw. I did one that was already moving in a little less than that but can't remember the exact time. Find a range that has one and spend a little quality time with it. Hopalong That is actually my main problem. They keep all the steel including the TS locked up until stage setup on Saturday. My plan is to get out there on Saturdays and just shoot the bejeezus out of it if they have it set up for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dog Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 One other thing you might want to try.... with a revolver there isn't anything saying you have to shoot double action. The last time I tried the 5 pointed star it was much easier going single action. Your results may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 With me, it's how well I'm calling my shots that day. You've heard it said that slower is faster. Well, I think that is the key for me. If I chase the plates, I'm going to miss them. If I wait for them to come to a certain point that will almost stand still before reversing, I am pretty consistant. Like hopalong said, To figure it out, you need to pound on it a while. FWIW dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Top right, top left and work your way down from there. You can only miss one time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 No different than any other steel, just start at the top and work down. I like to go Top, Right, Left, bottom Left, bottom Right. You just don't want to start chasing them. Oh and stay away from Manny and the Swinging Texas Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) Oddly enough, sometimes shooting the Texas Star faster actually makes the task easier. They don't have time to get moving if you knock the plates off fast enough! +1 The death part of the Star is the hesitation. You can do the math off the points and time. If you have a stage with just the star and USPSA score your looking at 25 point div/time but if you have a 100 point stage the star is just 1/4 of the points. shoot the 100 point stage in 20 seconds the stare takes 10 of that to get just 1/4 of the score if you take six fast shots and get just 4 you are down 10 + 10 per miss, 30points and have just used 5 seconds or less shot the stage in 15 seconds 15 div X 70=HF of 4,66hf Or make the reload add 6 seconds and get the points = 21 sec /100 points HF 4.76 You gota know your speed on a reload and target transition. Do the math with just one miss and the less time with just one miss the HF goes to 5.33 @15 seconds One thing for shurr is the faster you get the first three target on the star= the less it moves and the easyer it is. for a fast shooter the star is not that big a deal. Edited September 17, 2007 by AlamoShooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffl Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I don't see what the problem people have with star. I shoot one all the time Last year we had a side match at the Bianchi Cup and Tony Holmes picked up a gun from a table and shot a 5 pt star in 4.4 seconds or there abouts. That is about as fast as I have seen it done. My times are not as fast but the best way to shoot it is to start at the top. if it starts spinning wait till it stops to reverse direction and pop the plate. there is some video on our web site Secure Firearm Products of me and others shooting both 6 and 5 pt stars. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Set up for our match tomorrow and in checking out our TS I found part of the proble..... er, challenge for me. It is a weighted star. Yee ha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Start at the top and DON"T CHASE THE PLATES. Pick a position the plates will move past and shoot each plate as it comes into your sight picture. You WILL HIT IT !! PICK a position and the plates will come to you. DON"T CHASE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I think it would be a hoot. Did I just say hoot? You did, and it is. I've never shot one with one of those spinning things, but hope to soon. Get one, shoot the heck out of it and de-mystify the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I don't see what the problem people have with star.I shoot one all the time And therein lies the problem - many of us have little or no access to them. The only chance I have to shoot steel is at matches, which is why I'm uncomfortable with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Please explain a weighted texas star. Does it have an eccentric weight and is activated by a popper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 The only chance I have to shoot steel is at matches, which is why I'm uncomfortable with it. I've never shot a star except in a match. In fact, I almost never shoot at all, except during matches. (Then again, I do shoot quite a few matches!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Please explain a weighted texas star. Does it have an eccentric weight and is activated by a popper? I think you got it Tom. The ones I've seen are proped up with a weight hung on the star. and when the stick is removed, usually by a falling popper and a string/cable, the star will start to spin. Think transition and you could get a plate or to before the star begins to move if the popper is close enough. And on some stars the weight is there so that the star is set in the same position for all shooters and keeps the same leg in the downward position. The next time I see a weighted star with the popper set up I will try to hit the popper then the plate closest to the weight. Nothing like experimenting during a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Thanks. Never shot at a weighted one, but shooting the "heavy side" plate first would seem to make sense. Should be easy to tell which one during walk thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robopup Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Try one that's been set to spin. I have also heard of one set up that had spinning no shoot behind it. We have several stars here in the Atlanta area. Have seen 2 in one club match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffl Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 any one who has been to the nationals the last 2 years in tulsa or the IRC the last two years might have seen our start with the spinning no shoots behind it. there is video on our web site of them. Secure Firearm Products Have fun. Our weighted star uses a weight on a pole attached to the shaft and when the popper or other triggering device is hit the stick is pulled out and the star starts to turn. the weight falls off and the star then acts like a normal start when the plates are hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffl Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Neo, as you could tell by watching cliff shoot a revo at a star or Sam C. shoot it it can be done. However I shoot a Star alot and as you could tell I suck at shooting one with a revo. Some days are good some days are baaad! It was great shooting with you this weekend. I can post the video of cliff shooting the star if you want. dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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