Merlin Orr Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Deleted Deleted Deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 That's what I was thinkin' dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 The second ballot was my only chance to vote......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 The second ballot was my only chance to vote......... And I am happy for you, Howard.. No, Really. But, I start wondering whats Really up when a recount of the hanging chads is done by Huey Long, the head of the Teamster's Union and Mayor Daley in the back of the filling station after hours. Call me a suspicious, cynical bastard if you must but I do question motives....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Just because I am parinoid dosent mean they are not out to get me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Call me a suspicious, cynical bastard if you must but I do question motives....... The motive was simple - to protect every member's right to vote, while concurrently not going back on the representation we have made to the members who got their original ballot that it would count. A vendor to a vendor to USPSA screwed up (the mailing service hired by the CPA firm that is hired by USPSA to run the election) and sendtthe ballot by "standard mail" (ie, "junk mail") rather than "first class mail". Given the hand we were dealt, can you offer any insight as to how we could have better handled the situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 A friend of mine moved. Changed address. Notified Sedro Wooly. Her second ballot arrived today. It had been forwarded because it was first class. Sedro has her correct address....they said so last week on the phone. But her first junk mail ballot was not forwarded because whoever is mailing them has her old address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactiger Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 The second ballot was my only chance to vote......... And I am happy for you, Howard.. No, Really. But, I start wondering whats Really up when a recount of the hanging chads is done by Huey Long, the head of the Teamster's Union and Mayor Daley in the back of the filling station after hours. Call me a suspicious, cynical bastard if you must but I do question motives....... Uh, Edwin Edwards wins for USPSA president? Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Vote Twice or not at all? To be fair it had to be done this way. There is no conspiracy here, but I would not be surprised if there was not controversy (more) when the votes are counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Sedro has her correct address....they said so last week on the phone. But her first junk mail ballot was not forwarded because whoever is mailing them has her old address. HQ creates the list of eligible voters, including their addresses, on the first business day of July [bylaw 6.5], and turns the list over to the CPA firm with the unaddressed ballots instructions to let the USPSA Executive Director know the results. Once that list is turned over to the CPA firm, USPSA is out of the loop and no modifications or changes of addresses are made to it. The re-sending of the ballot used the exact same list as the first one. So, if the change of address was relatively recent, this could account for the ballot going to the previous address. There is no conspiracy here, but I would not be surprised if there was not controversy (more) when the votes are counted. I would be surprised. The election is run by an independent CPA firm, not USPSA. In fact, USPSA doesn't even have access to the correlation between the numbers printed on the ballot and the member name. The mailing house does, which is how they were able to send a second ballot with the same number with no compromise in the confidentiality of your vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 (edited) Well.... edited because it didn't add to the post at all.dSF dj Edited September 4, 2007 by dajarrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 Call me a suspicious, cynical bastard if you must but I do question motives....... The motive was simple - to protect every member's right to vote, while concurrently not going back on the representation we have made to the members who got their original ballot that it would count. A vendor to a vendor to USPSA screwed up (the mailing service hired by the CPA firm that is hired by USPSA to run the election) and sendtthe ballot by "standard mail" (ie, "junk mail") rather than "first class mail". Given the hand we were dealt, can you offer any insight as to how we could have better handled the situation? Hey now...Don't you go to rebuttin me with truth and logic.... You know I can't stand that type of behavior. All I can say is TO ME it sounded like it came from the grassy knoll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Hey now...Don't you go to rebuttin me with truth and logic.... You know I can't stand that type of behavior. All I can say is TO ME it sounded like it came from the grassy knoll. Did you see the man with the umbrella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Call me a suspicious, cynical bastard if you must but I do question motives....... The motive was simple - to protect every member's right to vote, while concurrently not going back on the representation we have made to the members who got their original ballot that it would count. A vendor to a vendor to USPSA screwed up (the mailing service hired by the CPA firm that is hired by USPSA to run the election) and sendtthe ballot by "standard mail" (ie, "junk mail") rather than "first class mail". Given the hand we were dealt, can you offer any insight as to how we could have better handled the situation? Hey now...Don't you go to rebuttin me with truth and logic.... You know I can't stand that type of behavior. All I can say is TO ME it sounded like it came from the grassy knoll. Grassy Knoll with a hired hand....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I still want them to reimburse me for my stamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD Niner Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I finally opened my second ballot mailing today. It had a very nice letter of apology from Direct Mail Network to Jacobson Jarvis & Co. LLC. The best line was, "Bulk rate indicia was mistakenly selected from our database and affixed to the carrier envelope." WTF is an "indicia" anyway? Even my spell checker choked on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 in·di·ci·a /ɪnˈdɪʃiə/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-dish-ee-uh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –plural noun, singular -ci·um. 1. a postal marking used rather than a stamp or a regular cancellation on each item in a large shipment of prepaid mail. 2. Often, indicium. a. a printed message or instruction, esp. one stamped on a package: an indicium of “bulk mail.” b. an indication or token. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 WTF is an "indicia" anyway? That would be latin for "f***up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I still want them to reimburse me for my stamp Why? You only need to use one stamp to cast a vote that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 You'd think we were talking about something really important....like there was a gun-grabbin' democract on the ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) I received my 2nd ballot on Saturday. It only had Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama on it. I'm not sure who to vote for, I may have to pencil in Akidale. I think Merlin may be right about this. Edited September 4, 2007 by North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Voting Twice??? Will somebody please write my name on a ballot so I can Vote once??? Haven't seen S% yet. Of course I haven't received my Jan Feb front sight yet either..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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