Steve Moneypenny Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 I tumble all of mine i'm a big hornady 1 shot fan. Flex turned me into a freak with this i spray it in a dish pan type rubber maid container spray them then shake and frlip them like a chef on TV gets them well coated, let dry and then add to the case feed. There is no problem tumbling.. well except the hollow points that were mentioned.. some kernels got between the sear and hammer of my tanfoglio stock... ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I NEVER lube my pistol brass before I load it with the carbide sizing die, and lately my elbow has been starting to hurt. It actually bothers me most when I sit and use the 550 with the ball handle. It doesn't seem to bother me when I stand and use the 650 with the roller handle. Can lubing straight wall pistol cases make that much of a difference? It seems the answer to that just might be yes.Dave Sinko The answer is Hell Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Dave, please try it and see how much nicer it is running the press. It adds about 10 minutes total to your ammo making experience, and it will make your life, and arm better.... OK, your forearm and shoulder will thank you.... DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 you don't want to tumble any rifle rounds that have been loaded with large extruded grain powders like imr 4350 and such. you shouldnt have any issues with tumbling any loaded pistol rounds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 you don't want to tumble any rifle rounds that have been loaded with large extruded grain powders like imr 4350 and such. Why not??? Do any of the ammo manufacturers load rifle w/ large extruded grain powders, or only reloaders??? Almost certainly they do... Do they ship ammo that's dirty from having been run through the loading machinery, or does it show up nice and bright and shiny??? How much vibration do you suppose it encounters in the various trucks it gets shipped around on before it gets to you??? How much vibration do you suppose that batch of 4350 that's on your shelf has been through in the process of it ending up on your shelf?? And how much vibration between your house and the place where you shoot? I'm not saying that throwing the loaded rounds in a tumbler for hours is a great idea... but tumbling a loaded round for 10 minutes or so is not likely at all to cause any issues, especially given the treatment of similar ammo by the ammo manufacturers..... Seriously - has anyone proven that tumbling loaded rounds is actually a problem - scientifically proven it?? (and aside from getting corn cob in your HP... ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I tumble everything from 9mm to 30.06 regardless of what powder I use. I did try Hornady's 1 shot lube this month and will use it from now on unless I can't find it and have to use the Dillon stuff... Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaymondMillbrae Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 *merged topic* If you are not supposed to tumble live rounds, then how do you get the lube off the shell after it is reloaded. Curious to hear how "non-tumblers" do it. In Christ: Raymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) Stick em in the gun and shoot em. Never fussed with them after loading. If there's a magic trick I'm missing, I'm about to learn something new! (I use OneShot) Edited October 22, 2009 by Seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danva Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I use dillon lube which is kind of sticky. Spray some silicone on an old towel and roll them/ tumble them in the towel. Seems to work well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I tumble them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Gonsalves Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I tumble them. Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I tumble them as well. Brian Enos suggested it on his Competition Reloading DVD, as that is what all the major ammo manufacturers did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I tumble. Doesn't take very long. I usually tumble for 30 mins or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Don't tumble rifle ammo with long stick powder. It will make the sticks shorter and can cause much higher pressures when fired. Handgun ammo with ball or flake powder? No problems in 30 years of tumbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaymondMillbrae Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) I know that the lube needs to be removed from the shells prior to shooting, as this will ensure that the shell makes a nice tight connection with the chamber when fired. (Bullet movement is always a "No-No" to a shooter)! I also NEVER tumble over 20 minutes to remove lube. From what I understood (which makes perfectly good sense), the longer you tumble a finished round, the better chance you have of breaking down the powder, hence changing it's properties. And lastly, I asked for alternatives because I read a thread a little while ago about bullets going OFF when hit. I have always tumbled my rounds, but I am also curious to learn a safer way...if possible. In Christ: Raymond Edited October 23, 2009 by RaymondMillbrae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Don't tumble rifle ammo with long stick powder. It will make the sticks shorter and can cause much higher pressures when fired. Do you have any documentation to support that? If that were the truth we couldn't ship ammo in containers where it would rattle/shake along with a whole bunch of other restrictions....none are in place. As mentioned, ammunition manufacturers tumble their loaded ammo....which is why it's so clean. I don't tumble, I just use a lube that doesn't require it....pure lanolin on my hands, hands run through bin of cases ready for loading....load and done, no residue and works as well as Hornady One Shot (far better than that actually) or Dillon case lube. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I tumble too... not too worried about it. 10 mins is all it takes, 15 max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 If you are not supposed to tumble live rounds, then how do you get the lube off the shell after it is reloaded. Tumble 'em all you want. Who ever told you that is not a sharp tack Unless you use JHPs... then it can be a problem, because corn cob can hang out in the hollow point, and then it always seems to drop out at just the wrong time and cause a jam or worse... Since I shoot JHPs, I just dump mine in a towel a couple of handfuls at a time, and rub them around to get the excess lube off (OneShot, which gets sticky and attracts dirt...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Don't tumble rifle ammo with long stick powder. It will make the sticks shorter and can cause much higher pressures when fired. +1 to Mr. Bartolo. This is bunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Obviously I'm in the minority of the first bunch of responders, but I haven't found my rounds to be greasy at all. How much lube are you guys using? My cases are barely slippery out of the press after the lube dries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I tumble all of my match ammo, my practice ammo does not get tumbled just as it is loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calishootr Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I seem to recall in the early 90's there was a recall/warning about shooting a particular brand of surplus ammo because it had some corrosion on it and the surplus dealer wanting to make it pretty and shiny for sale, and because he had 1 million+ rounds ofthe stuff used a commercial cement mixer to tumble the loaded ammo, and broke down the stick powders in the ammo, i heard they tested some at HP white labs and it was double the normal pressures found for a .308 cartridge despite that being said, i dont have a problem tumbling live ammo, hell ive even had a few .22 rounds survive in the dryer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) Obviously I'm in the minority of the first bunch of responders, but I haven't found my rounds to be greasy at all. How much lube are you guys using? My cases are barely slippery out of the press after the lube dries. It's not much left on them but it's noticable unless they are tumbled. Way too much effort to clean them with a towell. It's my thinking the any lube left of them will only attract dirt and I don't want any junk in my chamber. I personally believe that a little lube could cause some kind of hydraulic suction in the chamber with the cases... making extraction more difficult- potentially leadning to problems. Edited October 23, 2009 by lugnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I use One Shot, I don't tumble or wipe my ammo, never had a problem. Why do you need to do anything? I case gauge and go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I use One Shot, I don't tumble or wipe my ammo, never had a problem.Why do you need to do anything? I case gauge and go One Shot is very light compared to Dillon's lube. I use Dillon's fwiw so I tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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