timamal Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 My New open guns is 9mm. I don't want to deal with spacers. Call up Svi 91 dollars for a 140mm and 134 for a 170mm plus shipping and a 3 percent credit card fee. Man isn't the ban over. The price of stuff one day is going to kill this sport. Or least limited and open . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Amazing what formed sheet metal costs these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Check with Rene at SpeedShooter's, it's been a little while but I think he was a little cheaper when I bought mine. Good luck, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 For the love of pete don't price a slide stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 The ban is over, but the cartel has not been busted up. I'd check with SPS. Complete 140mm mags are like $50, 170's $55. Still pricey considering what they are, but a lot more realistic. (They hold one more too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Let's just say that Sandy's slightly proud of his stuff.... DP - looking forward to a "long term use" report on your SPS mags - curious if they're "hard use" gear or not... FWIW - my SV mags can all be shot prone w/ no issues in my gun. The STIs can't... The SV tubes seem to be higher quality, as well - at least they're finished and polished. The STIs, not so much. But, is that worth the price difference??? Doesn't seem like it to me... but... what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Just wait until you get them tuned then they start getting spendy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I'll be the first to admit that the Tanfoglio mags don't hold as many rounds as the SVI/STI/SPS equivalent, but mine are $20. If they can make them and make a profit for $20 then someone, somewhere is making a killing. If you are spending $90+ on a magazine then it had better work out of the box without tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 (edited) Retracted ... please continue with the regularly scheduled program.... Edited July 25, 2006 by L9X25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I think there is a discontinuity in magazine production efficiencies-- I bet TF mags are pretty much stamped out by automatic matchines, while I know STI and SV mags still have quite a bit of hand labor in them (USA hand labor to boot) I have no idea if that justifies $90, but they do last forever and you only need five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 If you are spending $90+ on a magazine then it had better work out of the box without tuning. I don't know about buying a complete mag. (I live in a 20 round state ) The tubes that I bought last year wouldn't feed worth a sh!t and the 170mm tube wouldn't even fit in the gun. All of them went out for tunig. Don't even get me started about inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberkid Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I am still convinced that the mag issue is one of the biggest forces behind Glock Limited guns. $20 mags that run with no tuning. The very idea of spending $90 per mag and the even remote possibility it will need to be tuned is BS. Is STI and SV have so much wonderful US hand labor, why is anyone alive making money tuning them? Sounds to me like if they are hand built, that shouldnt be nessecary. They charge that much, because they can. Dont forget that gun companies are still companies, and they will take your dollar anyway they can, just the same as the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Just a point of order - you won't pay that much for a brand new STI mag... You can buy complete 140mm mags from Chuck for $54. Tubes alone are a little bit less. It approaches $90 quickly when you start throwing in upgraded follower, spring, basepad... but add that cost onto the SV mag, as well.... You can do most/all of the tuning yourself, if required. All 5 of my mags (2 STI, 3 SV) worked fine with no tuning. I did a few things just to increase margin for error (polishing, feed lips, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 +1 on charging that much because they can.. It is really stupid...100 bucks for a mag...WOW.. And SVI is the same way about their pistols...they charge that cause they can..and YOU pay it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 SVI/STI magazines are a racket for sure! However the problem is purely market driven. Tooling up to make comparable mags would cost too much for a competitor to stay in business in the relatively small market that is practical shooting. Why haven't the SVI/STI tubes been updated to the new legal size so we don't need expensive basepads? Where are the Caspian 140mm .40 mags? Where are the Glock 140mm and 170mm magazine tubes? I'd say the answer to all of the above is that the practical shooting market is so small that a business can't afford to make these items happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I am still convinced that the mag issue is one of the biggest forces behind Glock Limited guns. $20 mags that run with no tuning. You've got a point, but the mags are more like $50 once you get competitive base pads on them. Apples to Apples, it's still cheaper, but why doesn't Glock blow mold some 140 legal 20 rounders for $25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 They are probably selling all they make now without having to invest in something else to make the 140mm tubes...just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 you're right of course, just like they sell all they can make without decent sites or a little beavertail to cure slide bite, etc, etc..... No reason to improve the product if you're moving inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 (edited) you're right of course, just like they sell all they can make without decent sites or a little beavertail to cure slide bite, etc, etc.....No reason to improve the product if you're moving inventory. I guess you can apply that same principle to SV. Last I heard they were running a 6-9 month wait on new guns. I have read numerous times that they were out-of-stock on mag bodies so they must be moving them too. Edited July 25, 2006 by L9X25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo radley Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 If Glock *did* make a 140mm mag, I wonder if they'd change their basepad? I've always found 'em a b*tch to get off...Probably just get the Dawson, anyway, though as you say: About $50 -- $15.99 for the hi-cap, new, + $29.95 for the extended pad. But it's also nice getting a handful of old, used, 10-round mags for a couple bucks each for practice in dry-firing. I could care less if they hit the concrete garage floor, or.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I think all double stacks mags are fairly high except for the Glock. Para mags are up to $85 + shipping with a Dawson extension. I'm figuring we are simply a very small market segment. If folks were buying STI, SV, or Para mags at the rate they are buying Glock mags, then the price might actually come down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Ibut why doesn't Glock blow mold some 140 legal 20 rounders for $25? Prior to 1994, Glock voluntarily restricted sales of its 33 round 9mm lamaginex to LEO/Govt only - even though it was perfectly legal to sell to civilians. I don't know if they have relaxed that restriction in the post 2004 era. I'm not sure exactly why Glock did that, since they have always been one of the strongest supporters of shooting sports and civilian ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 (edited) My New open guns is 9mm. I don't want to deal with spacers. Call up Svi 91 dollars for a 140mm and 134 for a 170mm plus shipping and a 3 percent credit card fee. Man isn't the ban over. The price of stuff one day is going to kill this sport. Or least limited and open . I take it your old gun was a 38s or such. Why not at least try your old mags before you buy. WE use STI super mags for 9mm all the time without spacers.------Larry Edited July 28, 2006 by lkytx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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