Smitty79 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Every couple hundred rounds, a 9mm case gets under the plate on my Dillon 650 case feeder. It's the most common stoppage on my machine. Are there set up things I can do to minimize this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Under? The plate must not be fully seated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) I've never had one under the feeder plate unless I was switching calibers and missed a case. Your feeder plate is not seated correctly if cases are underneath it. Edited August 6, 2023 by stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_B Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Actually I have had this happen several times also. Just remove it and keep going. Never have figure out how it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Upgrade to the DAA plate and your case feeder issues will be eliminated! https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/daa-turbo-case-feeder-plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Smitty79 said: Every couple hundred rounds, a 9mm case gets under the plate on my Dillon 650 case feeder. It's the most common stoppage on my machine. Are there set up things I can do to minimize this? Well Smitty.... I am glad that I am not the only one who has this issue. From time to time it seems that one needs to clean out the casefeeder bowl and re-seat the plate. I have fewer issues on one 650 with 9mm if I clean every 3 months or 3000 rounds. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m700 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 You dont have the washer in do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharko Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 That is such a pain, have to empty the bowl, remove the case and start over again. I use to empty the bowl by hand but now just pull the casefeed and dump. I have three casefeeds and one tends to do that, I think the shellplate doesn't sit flat enough in the bowl. Cause on one of the others I sometimes get a jamb at the trailing edge of the drop opening but the problem one just drags the brass under. I don't get it with the DA plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 hour ago, sharko said: I don't get it with the DA plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 FWIW: I have upgraded an XL650, an RL1100, and now the Apex 10 with DAA case feeder plates; and they have improved the case feeding to the point that I have experienced ZERO issues with any I have upgraded! Highly recommended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, HOGRIDER said: FWIW: I have upgraded an XL650, an RL1100, and now the Apex 10 with DAA case feeder plates; and they have improved the case feeding to the point that I have experienced ZERO issues with any I have upgraded! Highly recommended! I agree they are a distinct improvement. I have two. One does have a problem with the open mouth of 9mm brass getting stuck on the pointy end of the flipper. If that happens it will usually jam up the rotation although occasionally it will release after a momentary pause. DAA has replaced the flipper but it still happens with the new one. Probably some idiosyncrasy with that particular case feeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 11 hours ago, m700 said: You dont have the washer in do you? This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, ddc said: I agree they are a distinct improvement. I have two. One does have a problem with the open mouth of 9mm brass getting stuck on the pointy end of the flipper. If that happens it will usually jam up the rotation although occasionally it will release after a momentary pause. DAA has replaced the flipper but it still happens with the new one. Probably some idiosyncrasy with that particular case feeder. Yea, I remember tuning the flipper on the RL1100 took me a few tries to get it just right. The Apex 10 doesn't have a provision to bolt up a flipper; but as of now, it has not been an issue and feeding has been perfect! Edited August 8, 2023 by HOGRIDER To correct description! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 If your case feed bowl has a yellow zinc-plated steel plate making up part of the bowl, remove the upper right sheet metal screw and see if the bowl springs away by about 1/8" from the hole location. If yes, then make a new hole in the plastic bowl and reinstall the screw. Once in a while, during assembly of this style of bowl, The plastic bowl was too tightly clamped, flexing the base of the bowl just enough to allow a small case to roll under the plate. Unflexing the bowl corrects for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) On 8/6/2023 at 8:31 PM, HOGRIDER said: Upgrade to the DAA plate and your case feeder issues will be eliminated! https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/daa-turbo-case-feeder-plate Actually, I never had the problem with cases getting under my dillon plate. Happens frequently with the DAA plate. Never had upside down cases either....now I do. Edited March 13 by blueeyedme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquared Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 8/6/2023 at 10:35 AM, Smitty79 said: Every couple hundred rounds, a 9mm case gets under the plate on my Dillon 650 case feeder. It's the most common stoppage on my machine. Are there set up things I can do to minimize this? I have the same problem with this on a variable speed case feeder. It usually happens when I put in a lot of cases and when I load less it happens less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquared Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 8/8/2023 at 3:45 PM, dillon said: If your case feed bowl has a yellow zinc-plated steel plate making up part of the bowl, remove the upper right sheet metal screw and see if the bowl springs away by about 1/8" from the hole location. If yes, then make a new hole in the plastic bowl and reinstall the screw. Once in a while, during assembly of this style of bowl, The plastic bowl was too tightly clamped, flexing the base of the bowl just enough to allow a small case to roll under the plate. Unflexing the bowl corrects for this. I have had the problem with the metal sided feeder but most often it is with the variable speed model Doesnt matter if it is the Dillon plate or the double alpha plate it still happens. All 3 of my variable speed feeders are from November of last year and newer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Then the next time the case feed bowl is empty, lift out the case feed plate and lay a carpenters square across the bowl. The bottom of the bowl should be flat within +/- 1/8" . Be sure your loader is mounted to a stable surface. Plywood tops flex a bunch, and the case feed post sways as you sycle the handle. It might be necessary to attach the case feed bowl to the nearest wall to reduce swaying as the handle is cycled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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