usmc1974 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Nobody playing with one? What are your thoughts on It ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just got one and like it fine. It feels good and the weight is exactly the same as my 5" M&P9 2.0 CORE. I've been to the range once with it and it worked perfectly but more to come. The factory trigger pull is better than other stock M&P's I've seen but not as good as my 5" with an Apex sear and striker block. Next is an Apex kit and my Holosun HS507c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterboy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I have one on the way. Should get it in a couple days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 As noted above I recently bought a new Metal Frame M&P9 2.0. When I went to install an Apex sear, sear spring and striker block and removed the sear block from the frame and took out the factory sear, under it was just a spring, no plunger. I called S&W customer service and they had me send the gun back to them for inspection and I just got it back with a note saying it functioned just fine. When I just took out the sear block, same thing, just a spring under the sear, no plunger. The spring does seem to be a bit longer than the others I've seen. Is this a new design? All of my previous M&P 1.0 and 2.0 pistols had a small plunger over the sear spring but not this one. What's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, SteelCityShooter said: As noted above I recently bought a new Metal Frame M&P9 2.0. When I went to install an Apex sear, sear spring and striker block and removed the sear block from the frame and took out the factory sear, under it was just a spring, no plunger. I called S&W customer service and they had me send the gun back to them for inspection and I just got it back with a note saying it functioned just fine. When I just took out the sear block, same thing, just a spring under the sear, no plunger. The spring does seem to be a bit longer than the others I've seen. Is this a new design? All of my previous M&P 1.0 and 2.0 pistols had a small plunger over the sear spring but not this one. What's going on? Wow, I did not know none of this, but then I just had a nice set of sights/red dot and bullets. Because I never know which 1 I'm going to use for my concealed carry gun. Accept my custom Glock 35, with 2.5 trigger used for USPSA. keep us updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, SteelCityShooter said: As noted above I recently bought a new Metal Frame M&P9 2.0. When I went to install an Apex sear, sear spring and striker block and removed the sear block from the frame and took out the factory sear, under it was just a spring, no plunger. I called S&W customer service and they had me send the gun back to them for inspection and I just got it back with a note saying it functioned just fine. When I just took out the sear block, same thing, just a spring under the sear, no plunger. The spring does seem to be a bit longer than the others I've seen. Is this a new design? All of my previous M&P 1.0 and 2.0 pistols had a small plunger over the sear spring but not this one. What's going on? Who knows better how the gun is supposed to be designed and manufactured? If S&W said it's fine, then it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: Who knows better how the gun is supposed to be designed and manufactured? If S&W said it's fine, then it is. Maybe. I wonder if they even disassembled it to see. Yes, it certainly functioned as my range trip confirmed but the change in the sear block was puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 hours ago, SteelCityShooter said: Maybe. Unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincwarrior Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 4:17 PM, usmc1974 said: Nobody playing with one? What are your thoughts on It ? I am surprised they haven't put that frame onto their M&P long slide for a better competition gun. Additionally a metal frame for their 2.0 Compact would be a good competition frame for a CCP pistol in IDPA yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Zincwarrior said: I am surprised they haven't put that frame onto their M&P long slide for a better competition gun. Additionally a metal frame for their 2.0 Compact would be a good competition frame for a CCP pistol in IDPA yes? I think one is in the works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincwarrior Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 A follow up on the "missing" sear spring plunger. I called S&W's customer service again and this time got a most helpful agent. She actually went back and talked to the gunsmiths and then sent me an explanatory e-mail. Apparently S&W has indeed made a change to their sear spring set up for the Metal Frame. The spring is longer and the plunger dispensed with so the sear now sits directly on the end of the spring. This redesign also applies to the Shield + 30 Super Carry. So, this is a feature, not a bug. I don't know if this new type of sear spring is going to be introduced across the board or limited to these two model guns but if anyone here runs into it, that's the explanation. BTW, she also told me that the old style spring and plunger arrangement can still be installed in the sear block and I'm going to do that for my Apex sear installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Practicalomaha Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I have about 200 rounds through my 2.0 metal and so far no issues. So far a good pistol. But is it noticeably better then the non metal version I don’t think so. I shoot my no metal Version just as good. I also was hoping it would have a noticeable less amount of recoil and I feel like it doesn’t. Not saying it is a bad pistol just not sure yet if it is worth getting over the regular version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Practicalomaha said: I have about 200 rounds through my 2.0 metal and so far no issues. So far a good pistol. But is it noticeably better then the non metal version I don’t think so. I shoot my no metal Version just as good. I also was hoping it would have a noticeable less amount of recoil and I feel like it doesn’t. Not saying it is a bad pistol just not sure yet if it is worth getting over the regular version. No reason it should. It weighs exactly the same as as my 5" M&P9 2.0 CORE so it should weigh slightly more than the standard 4.25" guns but not a lot. Also, metal frame guns generally have a bit more noticable recoil than polymer guns since the polymer frames flex under recoil and reduce the jolt a bit. Noticeably better than the polymer guns? No, not really, just different and an interesting variation for S&W. That said I like mine and am looking forward to shooting it with the Apex changes. Edited November 12, 2022 by SteelCityShooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I just finally got around to shooting mine this past week. I like it better than the polymer, and it seems to be more accurate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lior Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 My guess is that if they'd make tungsten palm swells, they'd get the same weight delta as the difference between an aluminum and polymer frame. That said, they're in the business of selling guns, not upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Metal Frame action update. I obtained a sear spring plunger and installed it along with an Apex sear spring and sear and the Apex striker block in my Metal Frame. So far it appears to work just fine. It improved the trigger pull noticeably and reduced it from 6+ pounds to about 4 pounds. So, the Apex parts work in these guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtuns Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 On 11/20/2022 at 12:30 PM, SteelCityShooter said: Metal Frame action update. I obtained a sear spring plunger and installed it along with an Apex sear spring and sear and the Apex striker block in my Metal Frame. So far it appears to work just fine. It improved the trigger pull noticeably and reduced it from 6+ pounds to about 4 pounds. So, the Apex parts work in these guns. I took my apex forward set trigger out of my 5" polymer and it only works in the metal with the stock trigger. With the apex trigger it wont push sear enough checked before I put the slide on. Works good with all but trigger. I just got a Overwatch precision trigger feels good haven't done any live fire yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, dtuns said: I took my apex forward set trigger out of my 5" polymer and it only works in the metal with the stock trigger. With the apex trigger it wont push sear enough checked before I put the slide on. Works good with all but trigger. I just got a Overwatch precision trigger feels good haven't done any live fire yet. The smith and Wesson M&P2.0 metal, has a good trigger to begin with. mine breaks at about 4 1⁄2 -5 lbs, so unless you shooting bulls eye matches. I don't see the need to change it. This is very quickly becoming my favorite pistol. I never was a smith and Wesson auto, fan. loved their revolvers. I shoot mostly USPSA IDPA and 3 gun combat style matches, I guess I am just not that Trigger sensitive. Edited April 19, 2023 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtuns Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: The smith and Wesson M&P2.0 metal, has a good trigger to begin with. mine breaks at about 4 1⁄2 -5 lbs, so unless you shooting bulls eye matches. I don't see the need to change it. This is very quickly becoming my favorite pistol. I never was a smith and Wesson auto, fan. loved their revolvers. I shoot mostly USPSA IDPA and 3 gun combat style matches, I guess I am just not that Trigger sensitive. All my others have a 3.5# trigger like to keep them all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, dtuns said: All my others have a 3.5# trigger like to keep them all the same. Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil plesetz Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I recently purchased a metal 2.0 Competitor. I have a Docter Optic, but the problem is the rear iron sight blocks access to the adjustment locking screws on the optic. I wanted to just remove the rear sight; however, it is also used to hold down the firing pin blocker pin/spring. Does anyone make a dovetail with no sight for this application? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 2 hours ago, phil plesetz said: I recently purchased a metal 2.0 Competitor. I have a Docter Optic, but the problem is the rear iron sight blocks access to the adjustment locking screws on the optic. I wanted to just remove the rear sight; however, it is also used to hold down the firing pin blocker pin/spring. Does anyone make a dovetail with no sight for this application? Thanks, You may be able to find a cheap rear sight on the used market that you could shave down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil plesetz Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I could have someone 3D print one is but thought I would ask regardless. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtuns Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 20 hours ago, phil plesetz said: I recently purchased a metal 2.0 Competitor. I have a Docter Optic, but the problem is the rear iron sight blocks access to the adjustment locking screws on the optic. I wanted to just remove the rear sight; however, it is also used to hold down the firing pin blocker pin/spring. Does anyone make a dovetail with no sight for this application? Thanks, The firing pin block is under the optic not the iron sight so you can remove with out issue. The firing pin block is only under irons on non optic ready models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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