Norma brass, who's the imbecile...

[ysrracer]

...that thought putting a small flash hole in 9mm brass was a good idea?

 

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Edited February 12, 2022 by ysrracer

[dtsdave]

The person who likes new shiny useless brass. 

[AHI]

Head it was some bench rest shooter from kaliforina. That took up pistol shooting.

[Farmer]

All their brass that I’ve had has small flash holes, even std rifle brass. Quick zip with a uniformer and it’s fixed.  Good long lasting brass other than that. 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Farmer

[Jacksonj]

I thought that I had a maladjusted die decapping issue after my decapping pin stuck... twice! You'd have thought I would have figured it out after the first time.

My RCBS decapping pin is apparently just slightly larger than the Norma flash hole.

 

I've never sorted my 9mm range brass by headstamp... I do now <sigh>.

[AHI]

a little tid bit of help . This is one of multiple reasons I finally broke down and started Processing 9mm brass. the universal decapping dies will knock out the old primers. At that same time it will swage the hole a little. Then when you load the pin in your sizing die will not stick. I know this works using a mighty decapping die. and then a Dillon or Redding sizing die.

[ysrracer]

For me I just tumble the brass, then look at the headstamps. If it's got a brass primer and is a Norma, into the trash it goes.

[lll Otto lll]

Norma does this to enhance ignition.  
Lee's universal decapper has no problem with the smaller holes. But my Reddings do.

They're not worth messing with so they go in the dumpster. 

 

[Jacksonj]

1 minute ago, lll Otto lll said:

 

They're not worth messing with so they go in the dumpster. 

 

^ For now this is me ^

 

I don't have a universal decapper (probably should consider it) and the overwhelming majority of the 9mm I run through my old 550 are simply practice rounds.

Out of the last 3000 or so pieces of brass I've sorted recently there was less than 100 pieces of Norma.

But since I use range pickup brass and Norma seems to selling a lot to folks these past few months I guess I can anticipate that number to increase.

 

I've been fortunate the past few decades to not have to sort my 9mm brass...or maybe lucky... <sigh>  

[ysrracer]

Yeah, I'm loading on a Dillon 750 with Lee dies. When I hit a piece of Norma, it's a hard stoppage.

 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by ysrracer

[thor447]

While processing range brass, I'm using the FW Arms decapping die.  I've broken countless Lee and Lyman pins before switching.  I haven't broken a single FW pin yet.  All the Norma brass get a little extra nudge on the press, and it'll decap and swage out that flash hole a little bit.  Afterwards they load and shoot fine.

[BKUSPSA]

FW Arms decapper has been punching them out just fine

[AHI]

13 minutes ago, thor447 said:

While processing range brass, I'm using the FW Arms decapping die.  I've broken countless Lee and Lyman pins before switching.  I haven't broken a single FW pin yet.  All the Norma brass get a little extra nudge on the press, and it'll decap and swage out that flash hole a little bit.  Afterwards they load and shoot fine.

 

5 minutes ago, BKUSPSA said:

FW Arms decapper has been punching them out just fine

That is what I'm saying. Some people apparently are just looking for an excuse to complain

[Farmer]

I’ll give you guys my address and you can just send them to me! Depending on qty I’ll pick up the shipping. 

Edited February 14, 2022 by Farmer

[clw42]

So funny, I've been running into these lately as well.  They seem to stick a little with the dillon 9mm resizing die.  If one stops me, then I take it out, move over to the 650 with the MA sizing die and it punches right through, then I toss it back into the 1100 case feeder.

[ysrracer]

For me, on my 750 with Lee dies, it pops the de priming pin up. So I've got to stop, grab two wrenches, and reset the pin.

 

It's a pain in the butt.

[Farmer]

Norma brass was usually more of a reddish color and fairly easy to spot. Don’t know about the newer stuff, haven’t seen it. 

[datderecelltech]

I use a lee sizing die with squirrel daddy decapping pin with no issues. Decap and swage the hole at once. 

[Jacksonj]

There's been some good suggestions and I've learned of different tools that should make these Norma cases a nonissue for certain.

 

I admit to being a bit spoiled..maybe somewhat lazy. But I'm not complaining. Heck, this is free brass!

 

I don't deprime 9mm as a separate stage, just feed into my 30 year old 550 as I run 1 k batches of 9mm practice ammo. I have 3K of 147 HiTek bullets inbound as I type this.

 

I load a good bit of .38 spl through a single stage Lee press with RCBS dies. I just deprimed and straightened 1300 .38 cases this week so far. I'll prime and bell them next week.

 

I'll just adapt to sorting my 9mm cases. So I wasn't complaining, just "Expressing concern in a meaningful fashion" aka "Bit**in" LOL.

 

Thanks for the suggestions and great info.

Edited February 17, 2022 by Jacksonj
words...

[ysrracer]

I found a guy that sells once fired 9mm brass sorted by headstamp, wet tumbled, roll sized and de primed for 85 bucks, delivered. 

 

PM me if you want his info. I've used him in the past, I was just trying to save some money.

[Postal Bob]

On 2/12/2022 at 4:51 PM, ysrracer said:

...that thought putting a small flash hole in 9mm brass was a good idea?

 

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The same people that make 45acp cases with small pistol primers.  

[Steve RA]

I like the small primer .45 ACP cases as I only have to get one size primer for 9mm, .45 ACP and .223/5.56.  I use small rifle magnum primers and have never had a problem with them.

[DFIVE3]

So far I have been lucky to have no issues running a Dillon die on the 1100 and Norma brass. But I have only come across maybe a handful from range pick ups.