AverageJoeShooting Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 if you get a bull barrel do you also need to get a matching bull style slide or is the difference in the machining for the slide? Im getting into the process of buying the parts to have a 2011 customized for me, and i just need some clarity on how those two parts interact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Standard slide will work as long as it's within established specs. Buy known quality parts and check them when they arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 i mean so like an sti or caspian slide would be ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, ltdmstr said: Standard slide will work as long as it's within established specs. Buy known quality parts and check them when they arrive. what are known quality slides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Not sti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) Definitely not STI. I like Phoenix Trinity frames. And Caspian is usually good for slides, but not always. There's a thread somewhere with a pretty comprehensive list of slide and frame manufacturers. So maybe do a search for that. For barrels, I like Nowlin for ECM and Bar-Sto for broach cut. Been using both for 20+ years with zero issues. Kart is also good. Most of the other stuff is EGW, except for SV extra wide thumb safeties and Dawson mag catch and magwell. Edited March 29, 2020 by ltdmstr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, RangerTrace said: Yeah, your word is not golden like I used to think. I've got 4 STI pistols running like a charm and two Cheely pistols with Korean slides. Atlas is running the same Korean slides. All of these pistols are running nicely. Not sure what that means, but I'm glad you like your STI stuff and it's working out for you. Part of the problem with them is their quality seems to go up and down in cycles. People start saying the stuff has improved, then we get a bunch that have serious issues and encounter poor customer service on repairs or replacements. Personally, I saw enough junk parts and bad business practices that I decided to stop doing business with them a long time ago. That's just my decision based on personal experience. Regarding the OP's question on parts for his build, I'm not sure STI even sells slides and frames any more. And even if they do, there are plenty of other sources. Of those, most are better quality at lower price, and offer more options for the competition shooter. If OP wants to use STI parts for his build, that's great. I hope it works out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 The problem with STI slides were longevity/quality. Cracked slides. They made some quality parts, but slides have been a fairly well known issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 personally im not a huge fan of sti because of their quality but i will check out pheonix trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 also for tri topping or 5 topping the slide, thats up to the gunsmith correct>? you couldnt buy like a pre tri topped blank slide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest3Gunner Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, AverageJoeShooting said: also for tri topping or 5 topping the slide, thats up to the gunsmith correct>? you couldnt buy like a pre tri topped blank slide? You can definitely buy a pre tri-topped blank slide. JEM, Fusion I think, and a couple others I don't remeber off the top of my head. You can even buy slides with basic cuts already done from Atlas, Brazos, JEM, just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Midwest3Gunner said: You can definitely buy a pre tri-topped blank slide. JEM, Fusion I think, and a couple others I don't remeber off the top of my head. You can even buy slides with basic cuts already done from Atlas, Brazos, JEM, just to name a few. thanks! I think ill just get a blank atlas slide, part of the reason im doing a custom is for some of the gunsmiths personal touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 If you know who is going to build the gun for you, i.e. which gunsmith. Call him and ask which parts he prefers to use. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 also does it matter if the extractor is series 70 or 80? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) JEM Guns and Warwick Tactical both sell high quality Tri-topped slides. STI and Caspian slides are hit or miss. I just fit the last Caspian slide I will ever use. I bought it during the shortage, because that was all I could get. It was out of spec and the front diameter was .704", so a .700" bull barrel was a sloppy fit. I bought it from a distributor, so I could not return it. I've bought directly from Caspian on other occasions and had to return two slides for deficiencies. I would not do as you suggest. I'd buy an already lightened slide from JEM, Warwick or Brazos Custom. Edited March 29, 2020 by zzt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 6 hours ago, AverageJoeShooting said: also does it matter if the extractor is series 70 or 80? No difference in the extractor. Series 80 has a firing pin safety, i don't know of anyone that builds a 2011 with a firing pin safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIREDgun45 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 9 hours ago, AverageJoeShooting said: also for tri topping or 5 topping the slide, thats up to the gunsmith correct>? you couldnt buy like a pre tri topped blank slide? Infinity slides offer 3 (triptop) and 5 sided top as options. You can also have it with or without the bushing cut. From Officer's to 6" slides they are available in carbon and stainless steel. https://infinity.americommerce.com/slides.aspx Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I've had great luck with Caspian. I don't know if my builder ever had to reject one or more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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