Stafford Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I've had very little experience with CZ's other than rentals. I had previously tired a 75B over a year ago and more recently, rented a Shadow 2 - twice and a P-01. As a result, I've purchased a Shadow 2 and now a regular safety model SP-01. I've had the S2 to the range twice and it has been very accurate, and smooth. Very nice. For the past couple of days I've dry fired both the S2 and SP-01 (snap caps) and could tell a difference in the trigger weights. Still the SP-01 didn't seem bad at all, just not as great as the S2. Today, I tried them out together on a local steel range. Wow! BIG Difference. The S2 is a dream to shoot compared to the SP-01. Trigger, sights, everything. I really didn't think the difference would be so extreme, but it is. I'll keep shooting and dry firing the SP-01 and see how it breaks in. But it looks like sights and trigger work may be in it's future. I really think I may just keep the S2 stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimaryBruce Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Well...yeah... Not really a fair comparison at all. lol Shadow 2 main spring is about ~6lbs lighter, Shadow 2 has no FPB, so much better reset, Shadow 2 has better hammer. Edited January 9, 2020 by PrimaryBruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stafford Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Yeah, I knew there would be a difference, but I didn’t realize that big of a difference. The last time I rented a Shadow 2, I also rented a P-01. And I shot the P-01 very well - on paper targets. So, I guessed that the heavier, longer SP-01 would be that good as well. I’ll try it out on paper at my regular range a time or two before trying steel again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regor Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 You can put the CGW "ultra-lite" kit into a SP-01 and close most of the gap to the Shadow 2 in terms of trigger feel. The lack of a FPB in the S2 does make the reset shorter, but most people won't notice the difference in live fire. Do a full polish and install the CGW pro package and the only noticeable thing you'll give up on a fully tuned S2 is the weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stafford Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 The SP-01 wasn’t bad. It’s just that the S2 is much better. I found myself wanting to shoot the S2 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I’ve got a fully tuned SP01 that has just under a 6lb da and 2lb sa pull, the gun does not hold be back. As long as the trigger has been worked over and it has the correct springs they can be very competitive. I’ve got friends that have Shadow 2’s that think my trigger is just a good, mine just had a bit more reset due to the FPB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy9 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, mveto said: I’ve got a fully tuned SP01 that has just under a 6lb da and 2lb sa pull, the gun does not hold be back. As long as the trigger has been worked over and it has the correct springs they can be very competitive. I’ve got friends that have Shadow 2’s that think my trigger is just a good, mine just had a bit more reset due to the FPB. This ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stafford Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, mveto said: I’ve got a fully tuned SP01 that has just under a 6lb da and 2lb sa pull, the gun does not hold be back. As long as the trigger has been worked over and it has the correct springs they can be very competitive. I’ve got friends that have Shadow 2’s that think my trigger is just a good, mine just had a bit more reset due to the FPB. Is that compared to tuned Shadow 2’s? At this point, I’m pretty happy with my S2 even though I know it could be better. I’d be happy if my SP-01 could be tuned to the point of my stock Shadow 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanders Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The hammer in the S2 is significantly improved compared to the factory SP-01 hammer which is absolute trash. If you don't want to pay for a full Pro Package from Cajun Gun Works, just pick up an adjustable sear and hammer kit from them for less than $150. It isn't that hard to install and it really improves trigger break (it will be even better than the factory S2 trigger when you're done). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bench Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, mveto said: I’ve got a fully tuned SP01 that has just under a 6lb da and 2lb sa pull, the gun does not hold be back. As long as the trigger has been worked over and it has the correct springs they can be very competitive. I’ve got friends that have Shadow 2’s that think my trigger is just a good, mine just had a bit more reset due to the FPB. So what's your 'list' for "fully tuned"? The new SP01 hasn't cooled off from the trip from the LGS yet and looking for tune ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanders Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 If you care about the reset, they also sell a short reset kit that will get you really close to the reset on the S2 without removing the FPB safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I’ve got both S2’s and SP01 Shadow 1’s when they are both ‘tuned’ they are very similar as far as trigger. The biggest difference is the grip/ergonomics/weight and one of my S1’s trigger is still better than my S2’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Stafford said: Is that compared to tuned Shadow 2’s? At this point, I’m pretty happy with my S2 even though I know it could be better. I’d be happy if my SP-01 could be tuned to the point of my stock Shadow 2. Yes, see below 4 hours ago, Bench said: So what's your 'list' for "fully tuned"? The new SP01 hasn't cooled off from the trip from the LGS yet and looking for tune ups. I’ll try to remember all that’s been done to my SP01: CZ Comp Hammer 11.5lb main spring 11lb recoil spring CGW Pro package minus the CGW hammer & firing pin CZC extended firing pin CGW 10x bushing Tuned/timed firing pin block More polishing than I can even think of, while there might be a little bit more creep with the CZ comp hammer over the CGW and a bit more reset it’s not noticeable while shooting at speed. Everyone that’s pulled my trigger really likes it. Don’t get me wrong if I could get a Shadow 2 and not have to pay the California (they sell for $2100+ here) markup I would but the SP01 has not let me down yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 12 hours ago, Stafford said: Is that compared to tuned Shadow 2’s? At this point, I’m pretty happy with my S2 even though I know it could be better. I’d be happy if my SP-01 could be tuned to the point of my stock Shadow 2. My tuned SPO1 Shadow 1s were nicer/smoother/better than my stock S2s. No question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarky112 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, LuvDog said: My tuned SPO1 Shadow 1s were nicer/smoother/better than my stock S2s. No question. True but he doesn’t have a shadow 1, just the sp-01 so he’s got a little more difficult task if he wants to try to get it to the S2 level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyc Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 5:18 PM, LuvDog said: I’ve got both S2’s and SP01 Shadow 1’s when they are both ‘tuned’ they are very similar as far as trigger. The biggest difference is the grip/ergonomics/weight I second this. I also have both, a S2 and a CGW upgraded SP01, very much prefer the grip/ ergonomics / extra weight of the S2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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