Flexmoney Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 I find it interesting... That the current World Champ uses ...Tanfoglio, Aimpoint, Vectan SP-2, and CR-Speed (not the most tricked out gear) Also interensting is Patrick's article of the guns used by the top-dogs in the US at the Open Nationals last year. While most shoot some type of 1911, they weren't the "newest toy". And, here is an interesting post that ought to get the single-stack fans all worked up: http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97075 (Don't kill the messenger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianH Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Now that's a truckload of Bandini!!!! I think the author didn't mention #1 reason for Glocks popularity: Injection-molded pistols are inexpensive to manufacture, so, in a sense, CHEAP. Watch a double charge in a Glock and a double in a 1911....or an alloy-framed Baretta....HK, no, wait, that's another plastic one.....Sig? Aluminum casting? Maybe some just like guns made of steel....(Niobium revolver anybody?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dame Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 I think buddy there just went to a match and got his ass handed to him on plater by the 1911 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 I like the fact that he got his Chinese curse all wrong. It is not "May you have an interesting life." It is "May you live in interesting times" Totally different meanings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Flex I am not trying to kill the messenger. To each his own. Glock is a great weapon, but lets hold off on the comparison till Glock is 97 years old and then lets see what people have to say about it. If it stands the test of time like the 1911 then he can put forth all the adjectives he wants. If he can't wait that long, well, tell the guy that wrote that piece of crap, to come by my house and I will demonstrate how well my antique 1911 can shoot his bigoted ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Another aspect that has not been covered is Sponsorship. The best are the best because of their skills and not the gun they are told to shoot by the sponsors (unless it can't be made to work). If someone handed Todd J. an SV he would shoot it as well (or better) than he shoots a Para. Same with Brian or Robby. All these guys need is reliability and they will win. They often fear the "latest trick" that has not been proven reliable for fear it will cost them a match. I don't think that any one gun component is so advanced that it will make you beat a better oponent using good components. A week ago Armando Valdez showed up at Frank Garcia's range and mopped the floors with ALL of the open (and limited) shooters in attendance with a beat up old Glock. Humbling aint it. Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 I sold my Glock for a variety of reasons. The BIG reason for me is that I could not get a damn magazine that would reliably fall out of the gun. I bought FML, NFML, everything but the steel aftermarket mags that everyone said to avoid. On the other hand I bought a 1911, and later a wide body 1911, for one simple reason, upgrades. There is no other type of handgun that offers such a vast array of add ons, upgrades, and customization options as the 1911. I like flexibility and the 1911 offers that in abundance! -jhgtyre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Watch that Grauffel clip again and look at what else he does "wrong." http://perso.club-internet.fr/grauffel/vid...dente_front.mpg Can you spot it? SA (Edited by Steve Anderson at 8:25 am on Aug. 20, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecutts Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Are you speaking of his weak hand index finger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Yeah...kinda interesting that the champ does it wrong, and still gets it RIGHT. Sorry for the drift Flex. OOPS. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Poiret Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 And thumb rest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Flex: You get the Wooden Spoon Award for stirring up the most crap. I get a real chuckle out of the 1911 vs. Glock debates. Most of my friends shoot Glocks and train at Gunsite. The guys I compete with/against when I travel shoot 1911's or 2011's and bash plastic pistols and caps with pictures of birds on them. Funny thing, I compete with the good old single action platform, but my "carry gun" is made of polymer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 20, 2002 Author Share Posted August 20, 2002 Wooden Spoon , Heeeeyy..I won something. But...please remember...I'm not the one that said it. Heck, I just ran into a thread "over there" where some gun-store clerk said the Glocks would stretch with use and 1911's were two-handed guns...neither any good for defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 This thread accurately reflects where folks waste their energy. That's not to say that technique doesn't matter; but in the end, it doesn't. As long as your physical techniques do not violate basic leverage or mechanical principals, you're probably good-to-go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Hmmm, Jethro, Jerry B. and Chip M. also shot finger forward. Maybe it doesn't really matter that much. If it works for you than its all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianH Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 I thought you meant how he grabs his reload with his fingertips around the base pad (he still nailed it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 does it really matter what it looks like or how he did it if he shot it in the 3's and cleaned it? I think NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 "That's not to say that technique doesn't matter; but in the end, it doesn't. As long as your physical techniques do not violate basic leverage or mechanical principals, you're probably good-to-go." Another top 10 benos pearl of wisdom. This place is saving me years of frustration... SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Several Months ago I shot a local match on the same squad as Frank Garcia. (He has been known to use some salesmanship to sell a class or two from the shooters in the match, if possible) He was teasing some of the shooters about their techniques or strategies after they shot each stage. I had the luck to shoot after he did and, although I shot the stage the same way that he did, I was 2 seconds faster. He smiled as he walked up to me and said “I have never seen anyone with such poor technique shoot so fast”. I smiled and thanked him for the compliment! Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 "I sold my Glock for a variety of reasons. The BIG reason for me is that I could not get a damn magazine that would reliably fall out of the gun. I bought FML, NFML, everything but the steel aftermarket mags that everyone said to avoid." The "drop free" Glock mags, in my experience, don't. Back when I carried a Glock 19, I used exclusibly non-drop frees. I found that, on about half the non-drop frees, when the mag got down to about five rounds, they'd fall out of the gun just fine. I remember going to a class once where I was the only Glock shooter who could do a decent speed reload, because I was the only Glock shooter whose magazines would fall out of the gun when he pressed the mag button. I was also the only Glock shooter running "non-drop free" mags! Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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