Shooter212 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I see people playing around with wave springs in there pccs. I am wondering where to find them. The places that I found online are big places that sell to businesses. Link to comment
longbeard Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 If you search the forum you should find the original thread where Max showed them to the community. In there you can find what spring and I believe find it on Amazon. You might search using Smalley Link to comment
11287 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I just got mine from Amazon. $18.50 with Prime for five of them. Two day delivery. I have not tried it yet. Can someone confirm you just take out the buffer spring and buffer, insert wave spring and then reinstall the buffer and buffer spring? Link to comment
longbeard Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, 11287 said: I just got mine from Amazon. $18.50 with Prime for five of them. Two day delivery. I have not tried it yet. Can someone confirm you just take out the buffer spring and buffer, insert wave spring and then reinstall the buffer and buffer spring? You will want something between the two springs. A quarter will work or you can get more fancy and use a cut buffer stop. Also, remember that you are also likely going to change the distance the bolt travels. After installing the spring you will need to check the reset on the trigger. You really need the trigger to reset before it engages the wave spring. Some bolts require the bolt to travel further than others to reset the hammer. It depends how the cut was done on the underside of the bolt. Link to comment
Shooter212 Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 I couldn’t find the original thread. I might try the ones I am finding on amazon. They don’t give a good description of the sizes on there is the only down side. Link to comment
mveto Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Here is the original thread. Its a great read. Link to comment
Flatland Shooter Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Searched Amazon for "wave springs" and everything came up as unavailable. Link to comment
longbeard Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 My opinion isn't worth a lot, but...I really don't think these do much as far as spring action. I cant see them getting fully compressed. I think they act more as a buffer spacer than anything. Also, for what's it's worth... I find the the Taccom 3 stage system to work as well as and perhaps better than a blitzkrieg/Smalley combo, and for less money. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment
Shooter212 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 I have the taccom 3 stage and it made a huge difference. I am just always playing around trying different things. I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but I feel like my hipperfire trigger help with the recoil impulse too. It’s like the extra springs take a little speed out of the bolt coming back. Link to comment
Shooter212 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 Thanks for the link mveto! Link to comment
longbeard Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I have the taccom 3 stage and it made a huge difference. I am just always playing around trying different things. I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but I feel like my hipperfire trigger help with the recoil impulse too. It’s like the extra springs take a little speed out of the bolt coming back. I am as well. I recently moved to the JP 223 carbine spring in the Taccom system. It really changed single sight picture shots for me. They're crazy close.I have the hiperfire as well. Hadn't really noticed that. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment
Climbhard Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I can’t seem to find one except ordering from the company Edited April 10, 2018 by Climbhard Change Link to comment
Startingover Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Climbhard said: I can’t seem to find one except ordering from the company Here ya go https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0085ZOZFI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_V4PYAbQD5RE2X Link to comment
Climbhard Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 That’s 95lb spring rate versus 14lb Link to comment
MikeRush Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 12:37 PM, Climbhard said: That’s 95lb spring rate versus 14lb I'm pretty sure the 95 lb rating is 95 lbs per inch. The spec on the springs on Amazon are 25 lbs load capacity, which I think is the Smalley H spec as opposed to the M. It was a while back that I looked at it, but I purchased the 95 per inch/25 lb load capacity for my PCC and I love it. I'm just running a quarter as a spacer. Link to comment
Startingover Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I haven't gotten mine yet, they are on the way. But I am 99% sure the link I posted is the correct one. Link to comment
Climbhard Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just ordered two from the company. Link to comment
Startingover Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 On 4/12/2018 at 9:19 PM, Startingover said: I haven't gotten mine yet, they are on the way. But I am 99% sure the link I posted is the correct one. Mine showed up today, so all I need now is my upper and lower to be made. Waiting has given me time for homework though. Link to comment
Pewpewlife Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I've been using the M11 wave spring - JP scs -black 85% main spring - all tungsten weights. Its a nice set up if you already have the scs and want to stick with it. I got the Smalley wave spring direct from smalley as a sample. I just told them it was for a aircraft part my company was working on lol Link to comment
RaylanGivens Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 4/15/2018 at 11:50 PM, Pewpewlife said: I've been using the M11 wave spring - JP scs -black 85% main spring - all tungsten weights. Its a nice set up if you already have the scs and want to stick with it. I got the Smalley wave spring direct from smalley as a sample. I just told them it was for a aircraft part my company was working on lol Are you using the JP SCS system with four weights or five weights? I'm interested in trying the M11 wave spring on a JP SCS system... I think Smalley has gotten wise to the free sample trick... Would like to find a M11 on Amazon. Link to comment
wgj3 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Grainger also has the wave springs available... Link to comment
Pewpewlife Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 45 minutes ago, RaylanGivens said: Are you using the JP SCS system with four weights or five weights? I'm interested in trying the M11 wave spring on a JP SCS system... I think Smalley has gotten wise to the free sample trick... Would like to find a M11 on Amazon. Four weights, But I've moved on from the scs Link to comment
RaylanGivens Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 47 minutes ago, Pewpewlife said: Four weights, But I've moved on from the scs Curious what you moved on to... Blitzkrieg? Link to comment
MemphisMechanic Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I’m running a 95lb/in wave spring ordered off of Amazon in the back of the buffer tube with two turns cut off. Then a kynshot .308 hydraulic buffer (5oz, standard cabine length) and Sprinco red Enhanced power buffer spring. This is one flat shooting rifle, although it’s a CMMG Guard so it’s different from a purely blowback gun. The wave spring is cut down to let me manually lock the bolt back, although barely. The Guard has a longer 5.56 length bolt carrier, so I run the shorter carbine-length hyrdo buffer instead of the 9mm Blitzkrieg version Link to comment
RaylanGivens Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 7 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: I’m running a 95lb/in wave spring ordered off of Amazon in the back of the buffer tube with two turns cut off. Then a kynshot .308 hydraulic buffer (5oz, standard cabine length) and Sprinco red Enhanced power buffer spring. This is one flat shooting rifle, although it’s a CMMG Guard so it’s different from a purely blowback gun. The wave spring is cut down to let me manually lock the bolt back, although barely. The Guard has a longer 5.56 length bolt carrier, so I run the shorter carbine-length hyrdo buffer instead of the 9mm Blitzkrieg version One of the things that's been difficult for me to figure out is how to size the wave spring and delrin spacer lengths properly in these multiple piece "managed" buffer systems... It just dawned on me while reading your reply... The maximum length of all the spacers and springs still has to allow the bolt to lock back... That's the governing factor. Thanks for sharing the details on your buffer system. Link to comment
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