Introducing: Project Nemesis

[NateTheSkate]

That DPM system looks just like the STI (which I guess is now defunct?) recoil master guide rods. I've always wanted to try one but never got around to it.

[NateTheSkate]

On 7/24/2020 at 7:02 PM, Rudukai13 said:

It’ll need some blending on the interior transition, but it fits around the outer dimensions of the Icarus Precision grip module without any trouble. No P320 magwells that I know of would fit this X-Carry ACE320 grip without much more significant work.

 

 

As long as you are experimenting, have you considered trying a magwell for a CZ or Tanfoglio or some other pistol with a bit smaller grip size than the 2011. I mention this because these guns, being 9mm, are going to be closer to your Sig's grip size, namely the magwells won't be nearly as long as the 2011 ones.

 

I think the magwells for a P-10 are held on with a single screw, all you would need to do is drill and tap a hole in your grip... Just a thought.

[Rudukai13]

32 minutes ago, NateTheSkate said:

 

As long as you are experimenting, have you considered trying a magwell for a CZ or Tanfoglio or some other pistol with a bit smaller grip size than the 2011. I mention this because these guns, being 9mm, are going to be closer to your Sig's grip size, namely the magwells won't be nearly as long as the 2011 ones.

 

I think the magwells for a P-10 are held on with a single screw, all you would need to do is drill and tap a hole in your grip... Just a thought.

I hadn’t considered trying other platforms but that’s worth considering. I went the 2011 route because another shooter who had put a magwell on their Sig P226 had used a 2011 magwell and said it fit well. I’ll try ordering a couple other examples and see if there’s anything that’s a slightly closer fit

[Rudukai13]

My standard trigger upgrade for all of my P320s. This makes sure that no matter which pistol I’m shooting, the trigger feels as close to identical as possible. I should really get the tools that would let me install these myself at home...
 

[dansedgli]

A cheely or infinity magwell would fit better too. They don't have as much space at the front.

 

I tried epoxying the front of an STI magwell to take up the space between it and my cheely grip before they had a magwell that fit the standard division box and it didn't work well. The bit leading to the grip had to be super thin so wasn't very durable. 

 

The top pic suits an STI magwell. The left is the front. The bottom pic is a cheely magwell, the right is the front. It's more square. It's a copy of the SVI steel grip shape. 

 

 

[Rudukai13]

Good suggestions, I’ll look into options more like the steel grip magwells. Part of the reason I went with the STI magwell is because it’s a “Tactical” magwell which keeps it a bit slimmer. My hope when this build is finished is to still have some ability to conceal the gun, and an extra wide funnel magwell will make that more difficult to accomplish

[dansedgli]

The early cheely magwells for IDPA are pretty small. Much smaller front to back than the STI magwells, I doubt the width is much wider than the tactical magwell, if at all. 

 

They arent on the cheely website anymore but here is one.

 

https://www.doubletapsports.com/cheely-custom/cheely-custom-2011-small-idpaipsc-magwell-standard-division

 

 

[Rudukai13]

Bar-Sto barrel and Springer comp have shipped! Come on USPS don’t make me wait...

[Rudukai13]

I love deliveries! Got the Bar-Sto barrel and Springer comp in for the EVO320. Since it uses a standard Compact slide as opposed to an X-Carry slide with tighter tolerances, no fitting was needed and it dropped right into place. I did end up going with Springer’s larger three-port compensator as opposed to the “Shorty” comp that’s on the RS320s (Because f*#k Recoil). They say it requires +P or Major PF ammunition to function reliably, but since all I ever shoot is +P/NATO loads I figured I’d be good to go. The loctite will be left to dry for the next 24 hours and then it should be good to go - No more spontaneous disassembles in the future

 

[Rudukai13]

Problem solved, problem staying solved

 

[Rudukai13]

I’ve reached that point in the build process where it’s time to start accounting for how I’m actually going to carry this monstrosity. Oh yeah, I meant it when I said I intended this to be my new EDC gun. Phlster’s the one to make that happen...
 

[WhiteDingo]

Are you anticipating modification to the holster to clear the optic and mount?

[Rudukai13]

24 minutes ago, WhiteDingo said:

Are you anticipating modification to the holster to clear the optic and mount?

Yes there will be some Dremel surgery required, but the Floodlight is a universal holster that indexes off the WML of the pistol so the modifications needed for the optic mount won’t negatively effect fitment or retention of the holster

[Rudukai13]

After quite a bit of consideration, I believe I’ve arrived at the decision to begin the process of converting the pair of RS320s over to the EVO320 spec. I much prefer the frame-mounted RDS setup as well as the heavier metal grip module and it would be helpful to get a jump-start on the funds to both finish building the first EVO320 and begin acquiring components for a duplicate backup gun. Thanks to the nature of the platform, I can keep the FCUs from the RS320s and sell the complete upper and lower assemblies as a kind of RS320 X-Change kit - Buyers will just have to add their FCU and go

 

[Rudukai13]

On second thought I think I’ll just upgrade the RS320s and give them each an Icarus Precision Tactical Carry aluminum grip with Springer magwells, but otherwise keep them as they are. I’m a bit indecisive sometimes...

[Rudukai13]

I’m also fairly certain the EVO320 will get the X-Carry IP swapped out for a Tactical Carry IP grip module at some point in the future. The X-Carry grip is great and it was what was available at the time, but I know from experience with RS320A I significantly prefer the ergonomics of the standard P320 grip modules over the X-Series grips, and the Tactical Carry IP grip has ergonomics more like the standard P320 grip modules. With that in mind I likely won’t spend the time or money having my gunsmith graft the 2011 magwell to the X-Carry grip module and save that money to go towards the future Tactical Carry grip module with Springer magwell

[Rudukai13]

If anyone has a line on anywhere that might have some 9mm NATO ammo in stock and would be so nice as to pass a note, I could use some to start trials on the EVO320 with the new barrel/comp/recoil assembly...

[Rudukai13]

Turns out my brother has a few boxes to spare and he owes me more than a couple hundred rounds. Should be going to the range this Friday to put some rounds through the EVO320 and test the new setup

[Rudukai13]

Got the Floodlight in. As expected the RS320 fit with no issue in stock form - The EVO320...Not so much. But that was also as expected. I removed the elastic strap to get a rough idea of where the cut lines need to be and it appears it’ll be fairly straightforward. Once clearance for the optic mount is made, I can reconnect the slide side of the holster using the mix of spare hardware I’ve collected. This just might work after all...
 

[Rudukai13]

Viewers who are prone to queasiness or those with weak dispositions may want to look away now. Initial rough cuts to accommodate the optic mount are done (emphasis on rough). I’ll be going over the holster over the next couple days with a file and sandpaper to smooth out the rough edges and sharp corners. But as of today, I have an AIWB holster that holds and retains the EVO320. I may find something a bit more robust than the paracord to join the muzzle end of the holster - I’m thinking a small zip tie would do well for this role - but at this point it’s just smoothing out the details
 

[Rudukai13]

...I’m honestly a little shocked

[Rudukai13]

A member on another forum pointed out that the soft loops are printing a bit and recommended swapping them for some Discreet Carry Concepts clips. I was thinking about that myself, but my current plan is to try the soft loops for a bit and then consider changing them.

One issue I’m already seeing is going to be re-holstering without removing the holster from my pants. Since I removed a significant amount of structural support to make clearance for the optic mount, the slide side of the holster collapses a bit under the pressure of my belt when the gun is drawn and it causes the muzzle to get caught up on attempting to re-holster it (all manipulations have been done with an empty gun for the time being for safety). The holster still grabs and holds the X300U more than well enough to retain the gun for carrying though.

 

During the short time I tried carrying the gun around at home last night I found it to be surprisingly comfortable - Even more so than the RS320 with a spare mag in the T1C Axis sidecar holster.

 

I love it when a plan comes together 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Rudukai13

[Rudukai13]

The best part of filming your practice sessions is getting to go back and watch all your glorious f*#k-ups in excruciating frame-by-frame detail. I see a few points that need to be smoothed out here, but I think that’s mostly due to not being fully familiar and comfortable with the new pistol/holster combination yet. Time for more reps!

[Rudukai13]

...Nobody tell my bank account...(Please)
 

[Rudukai13]

The current plan is to put the inbound IP Tactical Carry module on RS320A once I get it to see how it handles. Assuming there’s nothing that makes me want to get rid of it (highly unlikely), I’ll then send it out to Springer Precision for fitting and installation of their ESP magwell, like the current polymer Compact modules utilize - I already confirmed with Springer’s head gunsmith that they can install their magwells on the Icarus grip modules the same as the factory polymer units. RS320B will follow suit with the same heavy metal upgrade (in ODG of course), and at some point in the future I’ll swap out the current X-Carry module on the EVO320 for the Tactical Carry+ESP magwell setup (which will be a bit more in-depth since it’ll involve drilling and tapping for the optic mount). That’ll give me ergonomic consistency across all of the platforms.

I’ll also need to convert my four 15-round Compact mags with +2 basepads to 17-round Fullsize mags with the +2 basepads, as the Tactical Carry grip modules won’t accept the Compact magazines. That’s just a matter of buying four more 17-round magazines and swapping the factory plastic basepads for the +2 extensions I already own though. The ESP magwells and +2 extension combination gives me a nearly flush-fit that leads to less printing and easier concealment, even with the slightly longer Fullsize grip length of the Tactical Carry grip module. That will leave me with mag options with 19, 23, and 27-round capacities, all of which will be compatible with all three guns.

I also finally have some 9mm NATO FMJ, just need to carve out the time to go to the range and test out the new barrel/comp/DPM recoil system in the EVO320. That should happen at some point this week.

I have all my next steps roadmapped, now it’s just a matter of money, effort, and time spent waiting on parts shipping and gunsmithing...The waiting is the worst part