PatriotDefense Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just a quick visual comparison of the Tanfo Stock III and its once removed twice added step cousin the CZ Shadow 2..... The CZ came with a price tag right under $1700 from the custom shop with a few extra parts installed (FO Sight, Short Disconnect, Firing Pin, and some tuning) per the invoice. The average of 10 pulls shielded a 7lb 2oz DA and a 3lb 8oz SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) I would like to add that the machining on the CZ looks fantastic and the front/back straps are extremely aggressive...... Edited March 30, 2017 by PatriotDefense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homewrecker07 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Great comparison! It was getting tough to pick out my next one. I'm leaning towards a Stock or limited just so I can swap slides but the CZ frame might be better for my smallish medium hands. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 You might like the Shadow 1 more than the 2 then. Apparently they've made the grip a bit bigger, at least in feel. More large-frame Tanfo like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yup, shadow 2 grips felt almost the same as the stock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 i agree... if you had xtreme grips on a tanfo they would be almost identical.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 They are honestly even more similar seeing them side by side than I though they would be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ha. Tanfo stole from CZ and now CZ stole from Tanfo. Gotta love it! Still not sure the premium for a stock Shadow 2 is worth it over a Stock 2/3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronArcher Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 So for an extra $700 I can get the same gun with a smaller magwell?Sweet!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I guess it is paying for a FO front sight, AL grips, better and I think more consistent machining, and a better finish... Still not sure it makes it any better than the Tanfo if you're willing to put a little work into it. If you want to shoot the gun out of the box, the CZ could be a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, IronArcher said: So for an extra $700 I can get the same gun with a smaller magwell? Sweet Smaller magazines too, though. CZs are easier to reload than Tanfoglios. Edited March 30, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The NON Custom Shop Shadow 2 comes with FO Front Sight, Short Reset Disco I believe......therefore is a plus $300 for some "internal polishing" I must admit that the Shadow 2 only needs a lighter Hammer Spring and thats all.......well a better Rear Sight tooSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronArcher Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 S III with fiber sight, BOLO, firing pin, aluminum grips under $1100 Stock vs Stock, the CZ most likely has a nicer trigger, but my XXL hands will be glad to pocket the extra $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) A Stock 2/3 really needs, IMO: One piece sear. Front sight Cone fit rod Springs and polishing ...in order to be a good shooter. That's still cheaper than an S2. Can you make it's trigger shorter and crisper in lines with a tuned CZ from Automatic Accuracy or CZCustom? Sure. And...Of course you'll come out ahead on the Tanfo as long as we're discussing having a shop do the CZ work, and DIY on the Tanfoglio. Theyre both great guns. Pick one and play. Edited March 30, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeOfToren Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Has anyone measured the DA trigger pull reach on the Shadow 2? I suppose it's the same as Shadow 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Oh. And @PatriotDefense ... nice grips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billthemarine2862 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: Oh. And @PatriotDefense ... nice grips. I second that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 9 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: Oh. And @PatriotDefense ... nice grips. 9 hours ago, billthemarine2862 said: I second that statement. if you think those are nice..... you should see my other set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, PatriotDefense said: if you think those are nice..... you should see my other set Well hurry up and start selling them, so I can see them in person, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) Nice grips indeed. I need one for my other stock 2. Edited March 31, 2017 by bulm540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Having fingered and disassembled a Shadow 2, I would buy one if I was just starting USPSA production. The level of quality and how nice they are right out of the box blow away anything from Tanfoglio. Yes, a tango is cheaper and can be made very nice. But, the Shadow 2 is so nice and requires just about nothing to be perfectly adequate. My hope is Massimo poos his pants over this gun and steps up his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: Well hurry up and start selling them, so I can see them in person, man! im trying... its the fine details that are killing me... i hate gaps 43 minutes ago, Twinkie said: Having fingered and disassembled a Shadow 2, I would buy one if I was just starting USPSA production. The level of quality and how nice they are right out of the box blow away anything from Tanfoglio. Yes, a tango is cheaper and can be made very nice. But, the Shadow 2 is so nice and requires just about nothing to be perfectly adequate. My hope is Massimo poos his pants over this gun and steps up his game. Based off the Shadow 2's price tag that i saw ($1700) and the MSRP of a Stock II/III now of about $900 you would have to be completely satisfied with the gun out of the box in order to justify that $800 increase. For anyone that has the slightest mechanical aptitude that $800 is a hard pill to swallow. I'm interested to see what the bone stock Shadow 2 (MSRP-$1300) feels like out of the box with out the custom shops secret sauce and parts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, PatriotDefense said: Based off the Shadow 2's price tag that i saw ($1700) and the MSRP of a Stock II/III now of about $900 you would have to be completely satisfied with the gun out of the box in order to justify that $800 increase. For anyone that has the slightest mechanical aptitude that $800 is a hard pill to swallow. I'm interested to see what the bone stock Shadow 2 (MSRP-$1300) feels like out of the box with out the custom shops secret sauce and parts on it. A direct comparison of the shad2 and the stock 2 or 3 with the SAME MONEY SPENT, would be great. I have a good appreciation of the entire CZ line, but a $900 Tanfo + $400 of shiny bits and a day of DIY time can be pretty impressive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 hours ago, PatriotDefense said: im trying... its the fine details that are killing me... i hate gaps Based off the Shadow 2's price tag that i saw ($1700) and the MSRP of a Stock II/III now of about $900 you would have to be completely satisfied with the gun out of the box in order to justify that $800 increase. For anyone that has the slightest mechanical aptitude that $800 is a hard pill to swallow. I'm interested to see what the bone stock Shadow 2 (MSRP-$1300) feels like out of the box with out the custom shops secret sauce and parts on it. That's the one I felt up. It could use a tiny amount of stoning to clean up the S.A. That's it. I was amaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA338 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Tanfos have in Europe a long and well earned repuation of cracking frames and slides when you shoot thousands of rounds in competition. CZs break only slide stops from time to time.Tanfos can be made to work extremely well with Eric Grauffel custom parts but that does not help with the frames.In Europe Tanfos were losing markets to CZ big time already before Shadow 2. CZs just plain work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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