obsessiveshooter Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 With it being an election year, is anyone thinking about what changes they would make if we ended up with, say, a national 10-round mag capacity limit with no grandfather clause?Would Limited shooters start shooting L10, Open shooters start shooting L10 or CO? Would most get a production rig? Would you switch ahead of time if you thought you saw the laws coming, or wait till the last minute?Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) I think we'd end up with some states refusing to enforce laws, and probably even passing their own laws to invalidate the federal overreach. but i don't think dems will take over control of congress, so I don't see such a thing happening. At any rate, all the real badazzes shoot singlestack already. Edited September 29, 2016 by motosapiens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 We already have a USPSA Rule that covers this scenario................ 3.3.1 - In states where competitors are restricted by law to maximum magazine capacity, that maximum capacity will be the maximum allowed for all competitors in the contest. Any such limitations must be made known to all competitors by the Match Director/Range Master before the start of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtac Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Hopefully we secede if that is the case, glad to finally be home in Texas. I am just getting set up for limited, I'll be upset if it occurs. Probably just stick with SS if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 8 hours ago, obsessiveshooter said: Would you switch ahead of time if you thought you saw the laws coming, or wait till the last minute? You should just sell all your pistols now and only shoot revolver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The President doesn't have the power to do what you're asking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessiveshooter Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 The president doesn't, but it's still possible. Who knows, Trump could cause the whole country to turn against all causes considered to be conservative issues. Hillary could appoint a bunch of supreme court justices that might think the 2A and Australian style gun laws are compatible. All I know is, I live in the mountains of Colorado and I have to [gladly] subvert state laws in order to compete in Limited division. I think of my state as being part of the Wild West, yet these are my laws, so anything is possible nationwide. The point wasn't to start a political discussion. Just play along with the hypothetical. Would you switch divisions? I personally would switch to whatever division had the most/best shooters. I just hope it wouldn't be SS. Shooting L10 or Open 10 would seem like driving an Indy car with a speed limiter set to 60mph. And I would hope that production division would adopt major PF scoring for those meeting the PF requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (flame suit is on so...) IMHO the greatest challenges to shooting skills lies in Revolver, SSTK, Production, Limited, then Open Divisions in that order. Why, because accuracy becomes a greater requirement as Mikes can force extra unplanned and possibly flat footed reloads - real time killers and USPSA scores are more sensitive to time than accuracy (to a point). I like SSTK because I like the challenge however I often shoot Limited because I don't like to shoot alone. I'd enjoy seeing more SSTK shooters but not because of legal issues. But, I doubt a retro active bad would or even could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 12 hours ago, obsessiveshooter said: I personally would switch to whatever division had the most/best shooters. I just hope it wouldn't be SS. It already is SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 On September 29, 2016 at 10:20 AM, obsessiveshooter said: ... Would Limited shooters start shooting L10, Open shooters start shooting L10 or CO? Would most get a production rig? Would you switch ahead of time if you thought you saw the laws coming, or wait till the last minute?... I am already in that boat as of July, 2017 in CA. Based on the rules Limited will be a 10 round division, so there would be no need to switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 just switch to Steel Challenge where if you need more than 5 rds per string you're in the wrong game ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On 9/29/2016 at 9:20 AM, obsessiveshooter said: With it being an election year, is anyone thinking about what changes they would make if we ended up with, say, a national 10-round mag capacity limit with no grandfather clause? Would Limited shooters start shooting L10, Open shooters start shooting L10 or CO? Would most get a production rig? Would you switch ahead of time if you thought you saw the laws coming, or wait till the last minute? Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk The presidential race does not matter in the short term. Pro gun people will still control congress and that is who passes laws. The danger is in the long term with supreme court appointments. As for gun laws nothing will be able to get passed with the president alone. If this were to happy say 20 years down the road which I hope it does not. People would still shoot the divisions they shoot just like in Canada just with lower cap mags. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge40 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Im in NY so it doesn't really matter what happens here. We already suffer here lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 These concerns are based on very real things that could happen. Another great reason to raise the next couple of generations to be shooting enthusiasts and staunch supporters of the shooting sports who vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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