Gooldylocks Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Cost would be my guess. It takes a ton of cash to import a new model. Based on my guesses, break even is around 20 guns. So... like 30 large? That's crazy. Is that ATF/ITAR stuff or what? Because it is hard to even fathom that much money just to import a different caliber of the same model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Cost would be my guess. It takes a ton of cash to import a new model. Based on my guesses, break even is around 20 guns. So... like 30 large? That's crazy. Is that ATF/ITAR stuff or what? Because it is hard to even fathom that much money just to import a different caliber of the same model. So the retail is $2000 ish on each gun. I would bet they make less than $200 on each gun. It is around $4k based on what I was looking at to do some importing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Cost would be my guess. It takes a ton of cash to import a new model. Based on my guesses, break even is around 20 guns. So... like 30 large? That's crazy. Is that ATF/ITAR stuff or what? Because it is hard to even fathom that much money just to import a different caliber of the same model. So the retail is $2000 ish on each gun. I would bet they make less than $200 on each gun. It is around $4k based on what I was looking at to do some importing. I've seen them as low as 1700, so I'm guessing they are probably paying closer to 1500 for them. But I see what you are saying, you are talking about the profit break even. I'm with you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Cost would be my guess. It takes a ton of cash to import a new model. Based on my guesses, break even is around 20 guns. So... like 30 large? That's crazy. Is that ATF/ITAR stuff or what? Because it is hard to even fathom that much money just to import a different caliber of the same model. So the retail is $2000 ish on each gun. I would bet they make less than $200 on each gun. It is around $4k based on what I was looking at to do some importing. I've seen them as low as 1700, so I'm guessing they are probably paying closer to 1500 for them. But I see what you are saying, you are talking about the profit break even. I'm with you know. Yeah, I am looking at what MSRP is, and what eagle has to buy and sell. See being it's a foreign company. Eagle has to get a sample permit $$, and get one gun to send to state dept for their eval, then it has to go on another form to ATF for approval. Then they can apply for an import permit for sales. Long and costly permit process. So on imported guns mark up has to happen more than on american made guns since the manufacturer SPS makes a profit, the importer Eagle makes a profit, then it goes to distributors that make a profit, and then the dealers. So when you look at the cost, they have to know. Now if they knew they would sell a pile, they may be talked into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Dude... 20 guns ain't shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryPScott Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 What is average price on these guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I payed 1950.00 for mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardust tommy Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I have a new (100 rounds) SPS Pantera in the shop for a trigger upgrade... found out that the SPS pistols are riding the link for lock up http://i66.tinypic.com/2814krd.jpg[/IMG] when you keep the slidestop in the pistol but with the lever hanging down the pistol will allmost not unlock... you need 2 hands to pull the slide back gr T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 On September 8, 2016 at 3:07 AM, stardust tommy said: I have a new (100 rounds) SPS Pantera in the shop for a trigger upgrade... found out that the SPS pistols are riding the link for lock up http://i66.tinypic.com/2814krd.jpg[/IMG] when you keep the slidestop in the pistol but with the lever hanging down the pistol will allmost not unlock... you need 2 hands to pull the slide back gr T Bummer. Neither of mine have that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Prety sure mine had this isue link wore real fast. Replaced link pin and link after 10000 rounds the factory link was 1 step longer than stock I installed stock link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 You could get the Super and shoot 9mm loaded long in it. Many people shoot 9mm in their Super guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardust tommy Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 10 hours ago, mro111lland said: Prety sure mine had this isue link wore real fast. Replaced link pin and link after 10000 rounds the factory link was 1 step longer than stock I installed stock link after installing a shorter link make sure the barrel stops against the VIS of the frame and doesn't hang on the link. pull the slidestop out and instal with the lever hanging down so jou can wiggle it... pull the slide back and push the barrel back against the table and wiggle the slidestop, it schould move free without resistance. if you feel resistance the barrel hangs on the link instead of stopping against the VIS. sps are good pistols for their price.... a friend of mine had a vista with an out of spec frame (pistol went full auto when the trigger was released and the grip safety came loose). Know he is waithing for months for a new pistol (Europe) Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Do they come with a mount and sight, their web site is amazing with the amount of information they omit ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 hours ago, Steve RA said: Do they come with a mount and sight, their web site is amazing with the amount of information they omit ?? mount yes, dot no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Ok, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Anyone know if a spring change will make it work with minor factory ammo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Ya a 10 pound spring for commander length slide will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magictalent Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 30/06/2016 at 8:26 PM, mro111lland said: Awsome I have one as well love it after I ditched the mount and went with a 90 degree mount. First one I got had a miss cut chamber. Eagle imports replaced it new one runs great. Yours must have a real fast barrel in at 8.4 grains of hs6 with a 124 to make 170 pf great review backs up everything I have said a bought mine Hi this is Jim from Canada. I purchased a SPS vista long in 38 super from US. Not able to get it group at 10 yards. At first I think it is my reload causes problem. After I change powder bullet, oal, crimp, still not able to group at 10 yards. You have mentioned you for a miss cut barrel. May I ask what is wrong with it. I like to make sure it is the gun problem not me, before I send it back to factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The chamber was messed up in mine had a bump in it rounds would stick in the camber but is shot just fine what bullets u using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magictalent Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 124 campro plated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Try a jacketed bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 try campro 124gr HP, they ran good in a few guns for me that didnt work with anything, including jacketed bullets. campro has some good stuff in general. the nickname we have for SPS isnt really a good one here... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magictalent Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I do have 124 HP and load them up for a try already. Better, not not solve the problem. I take the gun apart, and carefully check everything again. What I find is, with 38 Super, when I load at 0.378 crimp, it will headspace with the rim, but if I push, it will go further into the barrel (not able to headspace with case mouth). My 38 Super comp (1.25 OAL and 0.378 crimp) is not able to headspace with the rim or case mouth, and just go in too deep into the barrel. SO I flare the case mouth more, and crimp at .384. Now it can headspace with the case mouth, and will not go deeper into the barrel. The extractor extract case no problem, but case is not firmly against BF, so I will increase extractor tension to see if that can help with accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Yup same thing mine did would push the case past the groove in the chamber and get stuck send it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I dont really crimp at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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