GMB Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 What are your thoughts on the use of overlays for scoring in IDPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Use them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeidaho Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 If/when you think you need an overlay to score an IDPA target, the benefit of the doubt goes to the shooter. Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 don't, if you gotta stare that hard at it i/the shooter gets the benefit of the more positive outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Specifically mentioned in the rules. "IDPA scoring will not use scoring plugs or overlays." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robport Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I looked at over 2600 holes yesterday. An overlay would have been useful for maybe one of them and that one went to the shooter. The only time I would even consider wanting one is in judging hole diameters for bounced shots or for turning or falling targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 The reason I posed the question is because not all SO's think like those that have posted here. I have seen shooters get more PD when they should have received the 0 or -1. I think that overlays should be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Exactly. You better hope the SO likes you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Unfortunately JD45 that statement is very TRUE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 If I have to get within 3 feet to see the scoring, then the shooter is getting the better score. No sense in agonizing over the edge of a grease ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'd have to agree with JD on this one. I have had some pretty bad calls by SO's a couple of them cost me dearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig N Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If/when you think you need an overlay to score an IDPA target, the benefit of the doubt goes to the shooter. Done! I wish more SOs saw it that way. I've had SO look hard at a target and I always think "benefit of the doubt goes to the shooter". Isn't there wording like if you can't tell just by glancing at the target that the shooter gets the benefit of the doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 There's all kinds of " wording" in the rulebook. Who knows. It's a competitive sport where you have winners, losers, and trophies. Nobody's benefit of doubt should matter. Make a scoring rule and follow it. If the shooter earned the point, they should get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsg Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I look closer than 3 feet when scoring but it is usually pretty clear to me if the perf has been broken or not. If it is not clear after about 2 seconds of looking close (closer than 3 feet), I give it to the shooter. I agree I have seen some SO's who always want to call against the shooter. I want to call for the shooter but will try to be as accurate as possible. Also being an RO for USPSA, I have no desire to add overlays to IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Was at a major match in June and a shooter called for an overlay on a head shot. I just laughed under my breath, then to my surprise,the SO said oh I got one right here. Then I thought WTH?? and stood there while 5 shooters and 3 SO's discussed it.. Out come was a miss.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkeg Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Was at a major match in June and a shooter called for an overlay on a head shot. I just laughed under my breath, then to my surprise,the SO said oh I got one right here. Then I thought WTH?? and stood there while 5 shooters and 3 SO's discussed it.. Out come was a miss.. Are you friggin' kidding me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES13Raven Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) if the perf has been broken or not. Doesn't have to break, just has to touch. This includes the grease ring. This picture illustrates why: Edited July 21, 2016 by ES13Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Once again, follow the rules. Now, if you want my personal philosophy it is, "If this was a no shoot would you want the hit scored how you're asking?" And finally, the best thing you can take to some IDPA matches is a highlighted copy of the current rule book in your range bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Once again, follow the rules. Now, if you want my personal philosophy it is, "If this was a no shoot would you want the hit scored how you're asking?" And finally, the best thing you can take to some IDPA matches is a highlighted copy of the current rule book in your range bag. And printed copies of the rules interpretations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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