Hylton703 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Taco, I have an extra extended firing pin block. We can put it in your gun when we do the disco when you get down here, and you can just give me the one your ordered, when in comes in. If you want, of course. Hey TJART can you mic your extended FPB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJART Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Taco, I have an extra extended firing pin block. We can put it in your gun when we do the disco when you get down here, and you can just give me the one your ordered, when in comes in. If you want, of course. Hey TJART can you mic your extended FPB? Stand by... Edited March 25, 2016 by TJART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylton703 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Taco, I have an extra extended firing pin block. We can put it in your gun when we do the disco when you get down here, and you can just give me the one your ordered, when in comes in. If you want, of course. Hey TJART can you mic your extended FPB? Stand by... Ok thanks. I measured my extended FPB and came up with 0.508" also. However with hammer back I can still push firing pin in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Those are good numbers but that pen spring will let you down eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taco2000 Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Those are good numbers but that pen spring will let you down eventually. I never expect any spring will run reliably over the long term. Let's see how far it can go Edited March 28, 2016 by taco2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJART Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Those are good numbers but that pen spring will let you down eventually. I'm sure Taco bought the costco pack of pens. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Anybody know how much the Xtreme Plunger Spring weights ? Mj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJART Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Anybody know how much the Xtreme Plunger Spring weights ? Mj No, but... I've talked with Patriot about sourcing lower and quantifiable hammer spring for tanfos. Maybe once that's figured out, we can begin to see what other springs can be addressed. Hopefully no more clipping springs off "light" and "medium" springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just order the Cajun CZ FPS for the plunger. Works great and is not junk like a bic pen spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Anybody know how much the Xtreme Plunger Spring weights ? Mj No, but... I've talked with Patriot about sourcing lower and quantifiable hammer spring for tanfos. Maybe once that's figured out, we can begin to see what other springs can be addressed. Hopefully no more clipping springs off "light" and "medium" springs. Great to hear ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just order the Cajun CZ FPS for the plunger. Works great and is not junk like a bic pen spring. Henning also sells reduced power "feather weight" plunger springs. I got it and tried. DA/SA pull weights do not change between the BIC pen spring and the Henning ones. I think they are more expensive but peace of mind alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Those are good numbers but that pen spring will let you down eventually. I have used the BIC pen spring (the Atlantis version of their pen) for 2000+ live rounds plus at least 3 times of that number in dry fire with no problem. It should run more. I guess they are cheap enough to replace every time you do a detailed strip and cleaning. Edited March 28, 2016 by MilkMyDuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I ran a generic clicky pen spring for 10-15K rounds, worked just fine. Eventually went to a light Henning spring hoping for improved reset without much change in trigger pull weight. I didn't weight it before and after but it was sort of a non-event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) I briefly ran a pen spring. It worked, but the mushy indistinct reset just didn't feel right. Switched to the stock spring, then cut a coil, then cut a second coil. I doubt the pen spring will break, I've NEVER had one break in a pen and I'm a nervous clicker! On my S2, it has Titan, EG fp, fpb,sear. 2 cut coils on a 14# wolff hammer spring Wolff fp return spring cut to have 8 - 9 coils (relaxed) past the fp tip Cz sear spring Cgw rp trigger spring and T3 disco. EVERYTHING polished several times. Then polished some more. DA is just at or a little over 6# and SA is just UNDER 2#. I use the old old school method of hanging weights from the trigger, so there is some subjectivity. Running S&B primers it's been 100%, if I seat the primers correctly. I'm assuming that running Federal match primers the spring could be reduced more, but I don't have any! And 6 / 2 is more than good enough for my poor skill set. FYI - WOLF primers run about 50% In SA. Changing to 22# hammer spring and matched fp return spring the wolf primers are only 85-90% DA and 97% SA and the ones that don't fire....never fire even wth a dozen strikes. So.... don't buy them... even if they look like a deal... they aren't! Edited March 28, 2016 by johnbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Those are good numbers but that pen spring will let you down eventually. I have used the BIC pen spring (the Atlantis version of their pen) for 2000+ live rounds plus at least 3 times of that number in dry fire with no problem. It should run more. I guess they are cheap enough to replace every time you do a detailed strip and cleaning. Mine lasted like 2 weeks before I had dead trigger and issues resetting during a match. I guess not all pen springs are created equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Those are good numbers but that pen spring will let you down eventually. I have used the BIC pen spring (the Atlantis version of their pen) for 2000+ live rounds plus at least 3 times of that number in dry fire with no problem. It should run more. I guess they are cheap enough to replace every time you do a detailed strip and cleaning. Mine lasted like 2 weeks before I had dead trigger and issues resetting during a match. I guess not all pen springs are created equal. Exactly, there must be thousands of different clicky pen springs out there, you never know what you are getting. I prefer to keep gun springs in my guns. I am running the CGW RP FPS for my plunger spring in my Stock II, but I am really curious to know what the weight rating would be of that spring compared to say the 18 lb Henning plunger spring... Anyone have both? Could you measure free length, coil diameter, ID, OD, and number of coils? Edit: That is unless we start specifying which clicky pen springs are being used and found to be the most reliable. Example: The Zebra Z-Grip clicky pen has a mighty nice looking spring in it! LOL Edited March 29, 2016 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Taco, I have an extra extended firing pin block. We can put it in your gun when we do the disco when you get down here, and you can just give me the one your ordered, when in comes in. If you want, of course. Hey TJART can you mic your extended FPB? Stand by... Ok thanks. I measured my extended FPB and came up with 0.508" also. However with hammer back I can still push firing pin in? Which FP are you using. If it is the Henning gen 4 you will probably have to switch to the gen 3 or the Xtreme FP. The fluting on the gen 4 pin, removes some of the contact surface for the FPB, and the FP will not be blocked in 'most' cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I agree. That thing is trash. Not sure why he changed the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 AWESOME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 On 3/24/2016 at 2:34 PM, johnbu said: What is the benefit of the canik trigger pin? Just makes it easier pull the trigger out or...? According to PD you will get trigger wiggle w Canik pin. Trade-offs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, Jeff O said: According to PD you will get trigger wiggle w Canik pin. Trade-offs..... The wiggle doesn't bother me. The benefit is only in ease of disassembly. It pushes right out of the gun with the heel of your palm behind a punch. Aside from tapping the roll pin out of the right side of the ambi safety, you don't need to drive any pins out of the gun in order to detail strip it for cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Another thing I gotta ask questions about. Will the cajun trigger pin not work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Shrugs I'm using the Cajun trigger pin for a Canik. Didn't look at anything else. Someone on the internets told me it'd work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I am a "slow learner"... 46 minutes ago, ARy said: Lol. Bro, I'm sure he figured it out by now. Haha. The canik pin is thinner than the roll pin. It allows slop in the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 14 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: The wiggle doesn't bother me. The benefit is only in ease of disassembly. It pushes right out of the gun with the heel of your palm behind a punch. Aside from tapping the roll pin out of the right side of the ambi safety, you don't need to drive any pins out of the gun in order to detail strip it for cleaning. I'm a newbie around here, but I've already figured out that if PD says it, it's the next thing to biblical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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