rustybayonet Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I picked up a k of spmp's and just wondering if there could be any major problems using them in 9mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b18prl Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 You might have a gas cut in your breach face if running minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 IMO, it's NBD, shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 IMO, it's NBD, shoot them.Agreed. Shoot them. Some run rifle primers in everything with no ill affects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwyn Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 IMO, it's NBD, shoot them.Agreed. Shoot them. Some run rifle primers in everything with no ill affects I would be one of those... Did a lot of testing when primers were REALLY hard to find. I usually had about 10-20 fps increase when going from small pistol to either small rifle or small pistol mag when loading 9 major. standard 9mm load had smaller difference. If you have been around a while, you might remember a time when Federal had the same primer for spm and sr Sherwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I posted this several years back... It has been said that the WSPM primers are the same cup as the WSPP...That being said, if the SPP will seal the cup, then the SPMP will seal as well. There was a thread on primers on here not long ago, and somoeone actually corresponded with several of the primer manufacturers and got the cup hardness of quite a few of the different types. The only difference (IIRC) between the WSPP and the WSPMP was the heat of the flame... For those that want the linkies... http://www.jamescalh...nd_pressure.php http://www.sksboards...p?topic=56422.0 PRIMER CHART & REFERENCE GUIDE Small Handgun Standard .017" cup thickness CCI 500 Federal 100 - Has a soft cup - good to use if hammer strike is light. Federal 100M - Match version of above Magtech PR-SP Magtech PR-SPC - Lead-free "Clean Range" primer for indoor ranges etc. Remington 1 ½ RWS 4031 Winchester WSP Wolf Small Pistol SP - brass cup Small Handgun Magnum .017" cup thickness CCI 550 See Note 1 at the bottom of page Federal 200 Federal 200M - Match version of above Magtech PR-SPM Remington 5 ½ RWS 4047 Winchester WSPM Wolf Small Pistol Magnum SPM - brass cup Large Handgun Standard .020" cup thickness CCI 300 Federal 150 - Has a thinner cup Magtech PR-LP Remington 2 ½ RWS 5337 Winchester WLP Wolf Large Pistol LP - brass cup Large Handgun Magnum .020" cup thickness CCI 350 Federal 155 Wolf Large Pistol Magnum LPM - brass cup Small Rifle Standard CCI 400 -thin .020" cup, not recommended for AR15 use by CCI/Speer. Good for .22 Hornet, .30 Carbine. See Note 1 at the bottom of the page CCI BR4 - match primer with a thicker .025" cup. Federal 205 - Mil-Spec cup thickness according to Federal - okay for 5.56mm. .0225" cup thickness. Federal 205M - same as the 205 but the match version. Magtech PR-SR - .025" cup thickness (not much feedback yet on this new primer as to AR15 suitability but with the same cup thickness as the Rem 7 1/2 it looks good so far) Remington 6 ½ - thin .020" cup, intended for older, lower pressure rounds Remington says do not use for the .223 Rem or other similar pressure rounds. Good for .22 Hornet, .30 Carbine. Remington 7 ½ BR - A match or "bench rest" primer. Lyman & Nosler classify this primer as a Standard. Remington says the compound is the same as the 6 1/2 but with a thicker .025" cup. RWS 4033 Winchester WSR - some piercing issues noted when changed from silver to brass cup. Cup thickness is a bit thinner at .021". Most say they are good to go for the AR15 despite that, probably because of the hardness of the cup. Some feel they are less resistant to higher pressures. Wolf Small Rifle SR - soft, sensitive copper cup, not recommended for AR15/military rifle use or high pressure rounds. Small Rifle Magnum CCI 450 - same thicker .025" cup as the BR4 and #41. CCI #41 - commercial version of the fully-qualified DOD primer for use in U.S. military ammo. With this primer there is more 'distance' between the tip of the anvil and the bottom of the cup than with other CCI SR primers. .025" thick cup. Same primer mix as CCI 450. Remington 7 ½ BR - A match or "bench rest" primer. Hornady, Handloads.com, and Chuck Hawks classify this primer as a Magnum, differing from other sources that classify it as a Standard. .025" cup thickness. Wolf Small Rifle Magnum SRM - hard, less sensitive brass cup intended for AR15/military rifle and high pressure rounds. Wolf Small Rifle 223 SR223 - "This is the newest primer available in the Wolf line. It is ever so slightly hotter than the small rifle magnum primer and it comes with a brass colored thick cup. This primer can be used in place of the SRMprimer or used when a different powder is used that is hard to ignite." Large Rifle Standard CCI 200 - mild in brisance. Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. CCI BR2 - same as the 200 but the match version. Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. Federal 210 - medium brisance between CCI/Remington & Winchester. Do not use in semi-automatics. Federal 210M - match version of the above primer. Do not use in semi-automatics. Magtech PR-LR Remington 9 ½ - mild in brisance. RWS 5341 Winchester WLR - the hottest standard primer. Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. Wolf Large Rifle LR - all brass - Used by noted match shooter David Tubbs who says: "Be sure they are seated into the case - if not they can be hard to ignite. Russian primers use a different sinoxide compound (closer to the European type), which, in my testing, consistently delivers better extreme spreads over Federal..." Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. Large Rifle Magnum CCI 250 CCI #34 - commercial version of the fully-qualified DOD primer for use in U.S. military ammo. Federal 215 - original magnum primer Remington 9 ½ M - mildest magnum primer. RWS 5333 Winchester WLRM Wolf Large Rifle Magnum LRM - all brass 50 BMG CCI #35 - commercial version of the fully-qualified DOD primer for use in U.S. military ammo. Winchester 8312 Primers recommended for use in .223 Rem/5.56 semiautomatic rifle loads: CCI #41, 450, BR4 (#41 & 450 good with ball powder) Federal 205, 205M Remington 7 1/2 BR (good with ball powder) Winchester WSR (good with ball powder) Wolf SRM (good with ball powder) Wolf SR223 (hotter than SRM - great with ball powder) Primers recommended for use in .308 Win/7.62x51/7.62x39 semiautomatic rifle loads: CCI #34, 200, BR2, CCI 250 Winchester WLR, WLRM (good with ball powder) Wolf LR ################################################################################## NOTE 1: According to Speer/CCI Technical Services - Both the CCI 550 Small Pistol Magnum and CCI 400 Small Rifleprimers are identical in size. Both primers use the same cup metal and share the same cup thickness. Both primers use the same primer compound formula and same amount of primer compound. They can be used interchangeably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruleyoutoo1911 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Great info, Thanks for posting that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Shoot them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgrabow Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 On January 18, 2016 at 9:49 PM, GrumpyOne said: I posted this several years back... It has been said that the WSPM primers are the same cup as the WSPP...That being said, if the SPP will seal the cup, then the SPMP will seal as well. There was a thread on primers on here not long ago, and somoeone actually corresponded with several of the primer manufacturers and got the cup hardness of quite a few of the different types. The only difference (IIRC) between the WSPP and the WSPMP was the heat of the flame... For those that want the linkies... http://www.jamescalh...nd_pressure.php http://www.sksboards...p?topic=56422.0 PRIMER CHART & REFERENCE GUIDE Small Handgun Standard .017" cup thickness CCI 500 Federal 100 - Has a soft cup - good to use if hammer strike is light. Federal 100M - Match version of above Magtech PR-SP Magtech PR-SPC - Lead-free "Clean Range" primer for indoor ranges etc. Remington 1 ½ RWS 4031 Winchester WSP Wolf Small Pistol SP - brass cup Small Handgun Magnum .017" cup thickness CCI 550 See Note 1 at the bottom of page Federal 200 Federal 200M - Match version of above Magtech PR-SPM Remington 5 ½ RWS 4047 Winchester WSPM Wolf Small Pistol Magnum SPM - brass cup Large Handgun Standard .020" cup thickness CCI 300 Federal 150 - Has a thinner cup Magtech PR-LP Remington 2 ½ RWS 5337 Winchester WLP Wolf Large Pistol LP - brass cup Large Handgun Magnum .020" cup thickness CCI 350 Federal 155 Wolf Large Pistol Magnum LPM - brass cup Small Rifle Standard CCI 400 -thin .020" cup, not recommended for AR15 use by CCI/Speer. Good for .22 Hornet, .30 Carbine. See Note 1 at the bottom of the page CCI BR4 - match primer with a thicker .025" cup. Federal 205 - Mil-Spec cup thickness according to Federal - okay for 5.56mm. .0225" cup thickness. Federal 205M - same as the 205 but the match version. Magtech PR-SR - .025" cup thickness (not much feedback yet on this new primer as to AR15 suitability but with the same cup thickness as the Rem 7 1/2 it looks good so far) Remington 6 ½ - thin .020" cup, intended for older, lower pressure rounds Remington says do not use for the .223 Rem or other similar pressure rounds. Good for .22 Hornet, .30 Carbine. Remington 7 ½ BR - A match or "bench rest" primer. Lyman & Nosler classify this primer as a Standard. Remington says the compound is the same as the 6 1/2 but with a thicker .025" cup. RWS 4033 Winchester WSR - some piercing issues noted when changed from silver to brass cup. Cup thickness is a bit thinner at .021". Most say they are good to go for the AR15 despite that, probably because of the hardness of the cup. Some feel they are less resistant to higher pressures. Wolf Small Rifle SR - soft, sensitive copper cup, not recommended for AR15/military rifle use or high pressure rounds. Small Rifle Magnum CCI 450 - same thicker .025" cup as the BR4 and #41. CCI #41 - commercial version of the fully-qualified DOD primer for use in U.S. military ammo. With this primer there is more 'distance' between the tip of the anvil and the bottom of the cup than with other CCI SR primers. .025" thick cup. Same primer mix as CCI 450. Remington 7 ½ BR - A match or "bench rest" primer. Hornady, Handloads.com, and Chuck Hawks classify this primer as a Magnum, differing from other sources that classify it as a Standard. .025" cup thickness. Wolf Small Rifle Magnum SRM - hard, less sensitive brass cup intended for AR15/military rifle and high pressure rounds. Wolf Small Rifle 223 SR223 - "This is the newest primer available in the Wolf line. It is ever so slightly hotter than the small rifle magnum primer and it comes with a brass colored thick cup. This primer can be used in place of the SRMprimer or used when a different powder is used that is hard to ignite." Large Rifle Standard CCI 200 - mild in brisance. Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. CCI BR2 - same as the 200 but the match version. Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. Federal 210 - medium brisance between CCI/Remington & Winchester. Do not use in semi-automatics. Federal 210M - match version of the above primer. Do not use in semi-automatics. Magtech PR-LR Remington 9 ½ - mild in brisance. RWS 5341 Winchester WLR - the hottest standard primer. Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. Wolf Large Rifle LR - all brass - Used by noted match shooter David Tubbs who says: "Be sure they are seated into the case - if not they can be hard to ignite. Russian primers use a different sinoxide compound (closer to the European type), which, in my testing, consistently delivers better extreme spreads over Federal..." Hard enough for use in semi-automatics. Large Rifle Magnum CCI 250 CCI #34 - commercial version of the fully-qualified DOD primer for use in U.S. military ammo. Federal 215 - original magnum primer Remington 9 ½ M - mildest magnum primer. RWS 5333 Winchester WLRM Wolf Large Rifle Magnum LRM - all brass 50 BMG CCI #35 - commercial version of the fully-qualified DOD primer for use in U.S. military ammo. Winchester 8312 Primers recommended for use in .223 Rem/5.56 semiautomatic rifle loads: CCI #41, 450, BR4 (#41 & 450 good with ball powder) Federal 205, 205M Remington 7 1/2 BR (good with ball powder) Winchester WSR (good with ball powder) Wolf SRM (good with ball powder) Wolf SR223 (hotter than SRM - great with ball powder) Primers recommended for use in .308 Win/7.62x51/7.62x39 semiautomatic rifle loads: CCI #34, 200, BR2, CCI 250 Winchester WLR, WLRM (good with ball powder) Wolf LR ################################################################################## NOTE 1: According to Speer/CCI Technical Services - Both the CCI 550 Small Pistol Magnum and CCI 400 Small Rifleprimers are identical in size. Both primers use the same cup metal and share the same cup thickness. Both primers use the same primer compound formula and same amount of primer compound. They can be used interchangeably. Tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I only shoot Federal Primers and when they became hard to find I would switch to their Match primers and the Magnum ones when need be. No problems shooting them in 9 mm. Chronoing you may get a few more feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I use magnum small pistol primers sometime myself. I can't tell any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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