Swanny10 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 When you guys and girls start a stage facing up range requiring you to turn and draw to engage do you turn into your strong hand or turn into your weak hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Rotate on the foot that the gun is over. Right handed shooters should rotate on their right foot. The gun doesn't swing in a three foot arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I always turn into my strong hand (right side). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 try it both ways (with an unloaded gun) and see how much longer you have to wait turning to your left in order to avoid breaking the 180 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock26Toter Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Nimitz nailed it. Turn your head very aggressively and the rest of your body will follow. Don't put too much work into analyzing the footwork. Just get turned around as fast as possible and get your stable shooting platform. The more you try to come up with some "about face" fancy footwork, the more you will just wind up shooting in a weird position when you screw it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasref Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I always turn into my strong hand, that way the gun stays put as previously mentioned. If your in a shooting box make sure you leave yourself room to pivot and place your weak side foot in the box. Stepping outside makes for Procedurals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver60540 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Nimitz nailed it. Turn your head very aggressively and the rest of your body will follow. Don't put too much work into analyzing the footwork. Just get turned around as fast as possible and get your stable shooting platform. The more you try to come up with some "about face" fancy footwork, the more you will just wind up shooting in a weird position when you screw it up. Big Roger That. AllI I ever accomplished fooling around with my feet was to end up tangled up and off balance. Turning my head and getting my eyes one the target lets everything else follow naturally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single Stack Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I always turn into my gun. Law enforcement is usually trained to turn away from your gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricG Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 turn into the strong side most RO prefer that and feel better about it from a safety or DQ perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Does the person do something unsafe or not? Feelings are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Does the person do something unsafe or not? Feelings are irrelevant. Go to a major match and see how many people clear the trigger guard before they hit that 180 on a turn and draw stage. I promise you that the majority of folks do. Back to the topic, turn into the gun. less movement and you can get on the gun faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I have staffed several. If the person clears the trigger guard before the 180, they have done something unsafe. If not, they haven't. The direction they are going makes little difference to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Last I checked most of us wear our guns just about 90° to our centerline, therefore no matter what easy we turn we have to turn the same amount to not break the 180. The guys that run their guns more on the appendix area actually have to turn less going away from the gun. What I think everyone is actually saying is turn into the gun so your body will block the ROs view making it hard to call drawing to early. Probably works great at locals but major matches will have a RO on the other side as well so if it's a problem for you they will find it at the worst time. All that said if I am engaging a target directly down range I turn on the gun it's just smoother for me especially with a surrender start. If I am engaging a target somewhat to the side of the start position I turn whatever way is shorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny10 Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Thanks for all of the input. I hadn't thought about hiding from the SO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DagoRed Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I hadn't thought about hiding it either. I know that one night I was practicing dry fire the turn and was doing it to my weak side. next day was actually a match that had a turn and draw, my buddy that's helped me along the most told me right away that he thought I'd be faster going around the other way. I broke it down playing with it and that's the direction I go now, strong side, here was why I decided that. I"m a big guy, admittedly fat, I feel momentum is on my side where my hands/arms are concerned, instead of me spinning and bring my hand forward to get on my gun and draw it I am spinning and it's coming back towards the gun. (at least in my mind that is how I figure it). I usually shoot the targets left to right, so I find my feet end up in a better place for me to start the shooting. I don't have to make it a full 180 degrees around, if I at least get most of the way around I can be shooting and still make a half step adjustment to keep going. granted I'm not that good, but I found I like it better, and psychologically I feel better about it which might matter just as much. Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurm Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I usually turn into the gun but still occasionally practice turning the other way. I've run into the occasional stage where it just works better that way, easier target that way or having to move that direction. Being a lefty that probably happens to me more often than to right handed people but it can't hurt to have the skill in case you ever need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbopower18 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I feel its faster and more safe to turn towards your strong hand side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTDMFR Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 try it both ways (with an unloaded gun) and see how much longer you have to wait turning to your left in order to avoid breaking the 180 ... I had to DQ a guy for this a couple of months ago. Not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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