remoandiris Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Remoandiris, what OAL are you loading those at? I'll check and post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenverDave Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Thanks GrumpyOne, your advice is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Remoandiris, what OAL are you loading those at? I checked 3 rounds. OAL is 1.07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeye Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 boys i just heard last week that Clays is coming back....seems that they did shut down manufacturing in Australia but they are moving the equipment from to Canada and restart the line back there in Canada when they get it all moved...tis come from powder supplier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDA Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I saw Clay's on the shelf at Bass Pro on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Bought some at Sportsman's Warehouse last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester121 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Reloading Unlimited has 1- and 8-pounders in stock. https://reloadingunlimited.com/product/hodgdon-clays-8-lb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortyOverUnder Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Powder Valley HAD Clays for all of an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkballedtarget Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) missed out on the clays. im in the early stages of working up a load with wsf, still too early to tell, but it feels good. Edited December 19, 2015 by inkballedtarget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike21STI Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 missed out on the clays. im in the early stages of working up a load with wsf, still too early to tell, but it feels good. Wsf is pretty good, i had developed a load using 200gr bayous. I will go back to it when i am done with my n320 and ramshot competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 In a few days I'll better know how 700X is in .40. The few I loaded were nice. 4.2 gr pushing a 180 gr Bayou TCG equaled 167.5 PF in my new Trojan. I used 2.8 gr with the same bullet and got 129 PF. OAL is 1.15. I may shorten that to 1.12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single Stack Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I like E3 and was using it for .40 and 9mm in place of clays. Seems like E3 has gotten more popular now though and seems to be harder to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkballedtarget Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 What are y'all's thoughts on wsf vs n320 vs clays? I've read wsf and n320 are similar, how do they compare to clays? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hello: I am going to use up some of my shotgun powders for 45acp. Going to try Red Dot, HP-38/231, Blue Dot, Green Dot, Universal Clays, and WST. Don't have enough to load a lot of shotgun shells but should be able to load lots of pistol rounds. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta391 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 In a few days I'll better know how 700X is in .40. The few I loaded were nice. 4.2 gr pushing a 180 gr Bayou TCG equaled 167.5 PF in my new Trojan. I used 2.8 gr with the same bullet and got 129 PF. OAL is 1.15. I may shorten that to 1.12. Curious to here your thought's. I use a similar load only with 4.3 700x 1.135 with xtreme 180's plated FP. Started at 1.125, settled on 1.135 for feeding in my Trojan. No issue's with feeding in my M&P. No chrono data....Accurate load in both pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I have a feeling you are slightly over 170 PF, but not by much. However, you really should chrono and be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta391 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I have a feeling you are slightly over 170 PF, but not by much. However, you really should chrono and be sure. I agree. Next time my buddy brings his chrono, will do. Thanks for the follow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ClayDot is an excellent alternative....and it comes in 8lb jugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootertheshooter Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I've got an. 8lb of clays would trade for solo 1000 ? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 If you get a chance, try some Solo 1000. I haven't tried it in 40--but in 45 I honestly believe it's just a touch softer than Clays. My favorite powder for pistol. I sue it in 9mm, 38 spl, 40 s&w, 45 acp,and 45 colt. Clean, accurate, and very consistent. That said, good luck finding some. I'm down to my last 8 pounder and having no luck finding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think that Solo1k is almost extinct - I have one 12 oz bottle left as a memento. I've switched to American Select - very close to S1K in burn rate and feel, American Made, meters better, clean, accurate, a little cheaper, and I actually like it better overall. So, if you are jonsing for Solo1K might want to try a pound of American Select. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootertheshooter Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think that Solo1k is almost extinct - I have one 12 oz bottle left as a memento. I've switched to American Select - very close to S1K in burn rate and feel, American Made, meters better, clean, accurate, a little cheaper, and I actually like it better overall. So, if you are jonsing for Solo1K might want to try a pound of American Select. Yes I'm jonsing for Solo. Did you happen to chrono any of your loads? Any recipes ? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I do, but I developed American Select loads using these old Alliant freebie manuals as a guide. I don't load .40 and use it in 9mm and .45 gamer loads. Check out the different years manuals looking for the caliber and bullet weight you are interested in and go from there. The data for American Select Starts in the 1996 manual. http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant.html This is a great resource - so kudos to whoever owns that site (BTW - I am on a Nobel Vectan GM3 kick now and think it also is a good replacement for solo1K and is worth a look if you are exploring different powders for gamer loads) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootertheshooter Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I do, but I developed American Select loads using these old Alliant freebie manuals as a guide. I don't load .40 and use it in 9mm and .45 gamer loads. Check out the different years manuals looking for the caliber and bullet weight you are interested in and go from there. The data for American Select Starts in the 1996 manual. http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant.html This is a great resource - so kudos to whoever owns that site (BTW - I am on a Nobel Vectan GM3 kick now and think it also is a good replacement for solo1K and is worth a look if you are exploring different powders for gamer loads) My interest would be 9 for steel. Looking for a 125 PF . I'm playing with Clays but it's pretty finicky for minor loads. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) To give you an idea, for a 9mm 125gr Lead RN loads out of my 1911 9mm here is what I have been using: 9mm Lead RN (not coated, so if you use coated bullets the velocities may be a bit higher) American Select @ 3.8gr = approx. 128 pf American Select @ 4.0gr = approx 131 pf (this is my 125 grain go-to load with AS) OAL = 1.120" / Tula or Winchester SPP American Select is much more forgiving than Clays/ClayDot. I use clay dot in .38 short colts for 160 grain revolver loads and it gets spiky quick if you push the velocities (which is not recommended), but dang is it soft shooting at our gamer load velocities. In 38 short colts with American Select I've pushed 160 gr bullets to 145 pf without getting any primer flattening or sticky cases. With the same bullet at the same power factor of about 128-130ish I don't think I could really tell a difference between AS and Clay Dot during a match with the timer going, but on the bench it seems that Clay Dot does have a slight edge as far as felt recoil. Also, AS leaves a slight gray soot on the frame and cylinder that is easily wiped off, but clays is super clean and hardly leaves anything to wipe off. Edited December 29, 2015 by Bamboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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