kimberacp Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 As the title states, am taking the plunge into Open and I want to shoot the 115s. From a gun with no popples holes, EGW comp, 5 in slide. What would work best??? I have read the posts and some say HS for 115s and others use the AComp and the some that used Acomp and HS, say they didnt notice the difference. So, which one should I get?? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Peter, I can supply either (or both) if you wish! I have 1# cans of both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Well I haven't tried AC yet, but HS6 with 115s is pretty cool in my gun. 8.5gr, 115 coated bullet, 1.15oal making me about 170 pf. Not very loud, not much recoil, and pretty flat. And no pressure signs at all. I'm told it's smokier than it would be with WAC, but I wonder how much of that is from my coated bullets... either way it doesn't bother me when I'm shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 HS6 all day long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctay Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I use HS6 with 115 MG JHP. No smoke so I would assume any must be from the coated bullets. Always been a solid load with little recoil or flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggMike Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I am thinking about switching to 115's from 124's. I load my 124's at 1.160, what is a good length for 115's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 To make major with a 9mm, using the 115 gr bullets, you need a case full of HS6 - it felt nice and shot great, but I didn't like loading the powder up so high and having to load out that long.... So, I switched to WAC - takes about 1 grain less, and leaves some space in the case to seat the bullet - and powder doesn't spill out when I'm reloading. HS6 felt a bit better, but the WAC is easier to reload. And you use 12% or so less powder with the WAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Load same length for 115, 121 and 124. Edited October 16, 2015 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Tried both but I keep sticking with WAC. 7.8 @1.168 and MG115JHP gets me 172 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hs6 all day long and iv tried both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 i use hs6 as it creates more pressure to work the comp but have to work loads up slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 i use hs6 as it creates more pressure to work the comp but have to work loads up slow This isn't exactly true, if you compare book loads at the same velocity you'll see slower powders produce less pressure, it's gas volume which works the comp, not pressure. For an extreme example if you used enough Titegroup to make major it would be a very high pressure round (maybe even enough to blow up your gun), but would not work the comp as well as HS6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 meant gas volume as i find hs6 creates more then autocomp like i said i meant gas volume as i should have not stated pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I am switching to HS-6. I need to work up a load with WAC to be sure but I tested it against my go to 3n38 yesterday and I honestly couldn't feel any difference and they both shot the same. Even in a mixed mag I couldn't tell from shot to shot. I'm pretty happy about that. Much less powder in the case as well so less spilling. Also a lot less cost per pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 HS6 all day long! I have a metric crapload of WAC ... is it a BIG difference worth trying to trading 'up' to HS-6 given its readily available right now? ... Or more like a 2-5% better difference (for 9mm 115/121/124 major), something I would barely notice as a B/A Open shooter? Assume minor hassle factor of swapping out powder isn't an issue :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) HS6 all day long! I have a metric crapload of WAC ... is it a BIG difference worth trying to trading 'up' to HS-6 given its readily available right now? ... Or more like a 2-5% better difference (for 9mm 115/121/124 major), something I would barely notice as a B/A Open shooter? Assume minor hassle factor of swapping out powder isn't an issue :-) Considering you're 0.03% closer to A than I am one SURE you'll feel the difference On second thought no improvements to your game, I'm in this race to win! Edited October 22, 2015 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggMike Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 HS6 all day long! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I shoot both, don't see any real difference, besides the HS-6 being whole lot dirtier, so I tend to use more WAC. I truly think the difference is not worth worrying about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Loading some WAC and some CFE pistol later today under some 115g Planning on chrono and side by side with hs -6 and 3n38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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