oddjob Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 35 to 40 yrs.......The PGA has a Senior Tour at 50. I'm 58 and have been going down hill since about 40. Eyes are good (with glasses), but my eyes seem "slower". Physically little things are catching up with me...back, knees, shoulder, At my age I feel like a 1050....when its running good there's nothing better....but once in awhile parts break or get stuck....then its hell for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPatton Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah, Jerry is 61 and I don't know when he'll fall way behind. From what I gather, he can still walk onto any 3-gun match and be a very realistic threat to win it no matter who else is there. As for JM, I see him at every big 3gun I attend. You might out hustle him but you better bring your 'A' game if you intend to out shoot him 'cause that's gonna be tough to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I can't count how many times someone with 20 years of shooting experience who was fat, smoking, wearing glasses and retired has beat me while I was learning and getting better. Kinda frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yep, I've said it a million times .... Age is just an excuse ... Desire trumps just about everything ...particularily in a sport where physicality is not that important ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 What would you guys say is the typical age that starts to noticeably hinder performance? Next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) For most inactive men, decrepitude starts around 30. That being said, if you can move reasonably well and are fairly robust, you should be able to shoot at a pretty high level at the least into your 60s, and I wouldn't be shocked to see shooters older than that still perform pretty well. Edited December 13, 2015 by Jake Di Vita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 For most inactive men, decrepitude starts around 30. That being said, if you can move reasonably well and are fairly robust, you should be able to shoot at a pretty high level at the least into your 60s, and I wouldn't be shocked to see shooters older than that still perform pretty well. What Jake said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The more I watch the shooters at my club, the more I clearly I see that the more consistent shooters are very well represented in the 60+ crowd. We rust out faster than we wear out. I know some very old 35 year olds and some very young 65 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 It's not the age, it's the mileage. Good physical condition, a sharp mind and good vision will keep you in the game a long time. Unfortunately, I am not one of those few. 2 back surgeries, loss of vision in one eye and CRS made my decline apparent in my early 60's. But, there is a lot to be said for all the fun shooting super senior. I ended up high scoring super senior is every 2015 match, at my local range. Hell, I consider that "gold" now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Depends on what kind of mileage. Zero mileage is bad. Wrong kinds of mileage (injury-inducing) are also bad. But one has to stay active. A lifelong sedentary person is very, very old by age 50. Edited December 14, 2015 by GunBugBit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) The body is amazing how it can adapt to the environment it is placed in. This unfortunately includes adapting towards doing nothing if you are sedentary. Edited December 14, 2015 by Jake Di Vita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha1000 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I started becoming more and more prone to nagging injuries in weight lifting and jiu jitsu when I hit my early - mid 30's, mainly tendonitis, tendonosis, and muscle pulls. As I slide in to 40, I notice my eyes not working as well as they used to. I train harder now than I ever have but am constantly dealing with some ailment or another. So for general performance, I've already started the decline. As some have mentioned previously, I think it is largely an individual thing in terms of genetics and mileage. As far as shooting goes, I am still a relative noob at the sport, so I think I will be able to make a good deal of progress before I hit my peak, im just not sure my peak will be as high as it would have been had I found this sport 15-20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) I started becoming more and more prone to nagging injuries in weight lifting and jiu jitsu when I hit my early - mid 30's, mainly tendonitis, tendonosis, and muscle pulls. As I slide in to 40, I notice my eyes not working as well as they used to. I train harder now than I ever have but am constantly dealing with some ailment or another. So for general performance, I've already started the decline. As some have mentioned previously, I think it is largely an individual thing in terms of genetics and mileage. As far as shooting goes, I am still a relative noob at the sport, so I think I will be able to make a good deal of progress before I hit my peak, im just not sure my peak will be as high as it would have been had I found this sport 15-20 years ago. Yeah I agree with this. I've found that as trainees get older, they need to devote more and more time to things like sleep, nutrition, stress management, recovery, etc. Kelly Starrett at MobilityWod has some fantastic stuff on this from the recovery and maintenance standpoint. Edited December 14, 2015 by Jake Di Vita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha1000 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I started becoming more and more prone to nagging injuries in weight lifting and jiu jitsu when I hit my early - mid 30's, mainly tendonitis, tendonosis, and muscle pulls. As I slide in to 40, I notice my eyes not working as well as they used to. I train harder now than I ever have but am constantly dealing with some ailment or another. So for general performance, I've already started the decline. As some have mentioned previously, I think it is largely an individual thing in terms of genetics and mileage. As far as shooting goes, I am still a relative noob at the sport, so I think I will be able to make a good deal of progress before I hit my peak, im just not sure my peak will be as high as it would have been had I found this sport 15-20 years ago. Yeah I agree with this. I've found that as trainees get older, they need to devote more and more time to things like sleep, nutrition, stress management, recovery, etc. Kelly Starrett at MobilityWod has some fantastic stuff on this from the recovery and maintenance standpoint. He's got some good stuff, but time off is usually what fixes my tendinitis when it flares up. What I have found is pretty much the older I get, the more willing I am to embrace the suck to get where I want to be. If 15-20 yr old me had the same drive as 40 yr old me, no telling where the journey would have taken me. These days nothing pisses me off more and makes me work harder than sucking at something I want to be good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I started becoming more and more prone to nagging injuries in weight lifting and jiu jitsu when I hit my early - mid 30's, mainly tendonitis, tendonosis, and muscle pulls. As I slide in to 40, I notice my eyes not working as well as they used to. I train harder now than I ever have but am constantly dealing with some ailment or another. So for general performance, I've already started the decline. As some have mentioned previously, I think it is largely an individual thing in terms of genetics and mileage. As far as shooting goes, I am still a relative noob at the sport, so I think I will be able to make a good deal of progress before I hit my peak, im just not sure my peak will be as high as it would have been had I found this sport 15-20 years ago. Of course you won't peak quite as high... so? The great thing about finding new sports as you age is that you are on the steeper funner part of the learning curve. It's hard to stay motivated to train when you plateau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha1000 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So nothing. Just an observation. Not complaining, just offering an opinion on the original question and what I've experienced and I've moved through my 30's. N=1 sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 30s, 40s...OK. Your body is still going to change a lot. Things that are hurt now can and will heal, other things might not. Things you can physically do well now, you might be even better at in your 50s and possibly beyond. Eyes change but vision correction technology is at an incredible level. The number of training devices/techniques, nutrition options, hormone therapies, surgical repairs, etc., can keep a motivated person performing at a high level for a very long time. But you have to take advantage of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) For most inactive men, decrepitude starts around 30. That being said, if you can move reasonably well and are fairly robust, you should be able to shoot at a pretty high level at the least into your 60s, and I wouldn't be shocked to see shooters older than that still perform pretty well. How do you explain the Tarannosaurus then? He can bend time and space measurements, slow the clock down and increase the point count. Everyone knows he is an Alien Robot..... Edited December 17, 2015 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think you explained him just fine lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 For most inactive men, decrepitude starts around 30. That being said, if you can move reasonably well and are fairly robust, you should be able to shoot at a pretty high level at the least into your 60s, and I wouldn't be shocked to see shooters older than that still perform pretty well. How do you explain the Tarannosaurus then? He can bend time and space measurements, slow the clock down and increase the point count. Everyone knows he is an Alien Robot..... the explanation is that shooting is a sport that even fat sedendary old men can succeed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Moto, that's because shooting is 99% mental and only 50% physical..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Moto, that's because shooting is 99% mental and only 50% physical..... and 25% mathematical ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Moto, that's because shooting is 99% mental and only 50% physical..... and 25% mathematical ability. Yea, and that's the hardest part, isn't it. 99+50+25 still adds up to 100%........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Moto, that's because shooting is 99% mental and only 50% physical..... and 25% mathematical ability. Yea, and that's the hardest part, isn't it. 99+50+25 still adds up to 100%........... (math nerd alert) only in a finite system, such as a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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