woodrow Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I've got a 627pc and am having trouble loading moon clipped ammo. I've been playing with a buddy's 625jm and that loads no problem at all. Its almost like it sucks the ammo in. My question is if the stock 627pc chamfer is enough or do you guys have it chamfered out some more? I know the caliber and only 6 rounds of the 45 make loading really easy. But the chamfer i see in those is not like that weird uneven chamfering on my 627. The front and back is chamfered but the sides of the extractor are not. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Halley Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The extractor has to remain square somewhere in the 627 to enable the ejection of loose rounds. If you were to commit to never again shooting loose rounds through the gun, you could chamfer everything aggressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Been having the same issue - the mouth of the case gets hung up on the extractor which is unchamfered. Just bit the bullet and ordered a chamfering reamer from brownells yesterday. Edited September 29, 2015 by peterthefish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Just remember that's a big hole those 45 go in,makes them fall in really fast. That could be the difference.. Edited September 29, 2015 by EEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 No doubt the .45 w/moons reloads faster. But the 627 reloads pretty easily with short cases and heavy round nosed bullets. Many people have done a good job chamfering the 8 hole guns with a dremel: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=177406 If you haven't already maybe do a search for something like "627 chamfer" and see what comes up. Several threads with lots of pictures and some how-to's with good advice. I chamfered my 627 with a dremel based on info I found here and it came out similar to what is in the link above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The chamfer isn't enough. I did my 627, and not as aggressively as others, and my reloads are just as fast as with the 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I've got a 627pc and am having trouble loading moon clipped ammo. I've been playing with a buddy's 625jm and that loads no problem at all. Its almost like it sucks the ammo in. My question is if the stock 627pc chamfer is enough or do you guys have it chamfered out some more? I know the caliber and only 6 rounds of the 45 make loading really easy. But the chamfer i see in those is not like that weird uneven chamfering on my 627. The front and back is chamfered but the sides of the extractor are not. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Not only is somewhat of a chamfer required, but properly fitted brass and moon clips are as well with the 627s. Many prefer Hearthco or TK clips with starline brass. The 625 was nice to just use e cheap stamped clips and whatever brass you had, it's a different story with the 8 shot guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrow Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) I should add that I'm new to revolver class. I needed a change from limited haaha. I've been doing my research here and getting set up pretty good. So far I'm loading 38 short colt with hearthco clips. But I load 38spl for blasting. Sometimes the moon will get locked in on a reload, the cartridges are about at the crimped area. If I fiddle them around they'll drop in. Maybe it has to do with chamfer and crimp...my first batch I've crimped like its an auto. Not all rolled in like a 357mag. Maybe thats a bigger culprit? Thanks for the replies guys. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Edited September 29, 2015 by woodrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDanCheck Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Chamfering will help.. Consistency in your gear is key. I know more than a few GMs running 38s in their 627s and their reloads are fast. Get all the same moonclips (TKs) And the same brass. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I took out the extractor on mine and chamfered just the cylinder part. The extractor has a chamfer near the ratchets, but still square on the sides of the hole to extract individual cases. I wanted to retain this feature so I just did a light edge break on the sides. With moon clips (Hearthco and Starline 38 SC) mine reloads as fast as anything else. Round nose bullets are a must, as anything with even a small flat on the nose will not work the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It is worth buying a moon-checker from TK customs. A slightly tweaked moonclip can bind things up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 First thing is to decide wether you want to still be able to shoot loose rounds, or you want it to be a dedicated "moonclip only gun" If you want to fire loose rounds, Chamfer the cylinder a bit more, and break the edges of the extractor, only chamfer as far as so that the rim of the case still sits in its proper original location : If its a competition gun / moon clip only gun, go big : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1valdez Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I just sent my 929 cylinder to TK custom. Does anyone knows how aggressive their chamfering jobs are? I want it like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 No idea how deep TK chamfers, I suppose you could send him some pictures to describe what you want. I did that one above with the brownells tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 No idea how deep TK chamfers, I suppose you could send him some pictures to describe what you want. I did that one above with the brownells tool. What pilot did you use? Or freehand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 The 38/357 pilot and 1/2 " cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete627 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Brownells ... 080-948-381WB in one kit (cylinder). Have had this sitting on the desk for 6 months and afraid to do it!!! ... cause ... I am worried about keeping the cuts equal. How did you limit the cut depth?? (keep them all the same) I was thinking of hand turning it in a drill press so I could get the same depth in each hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Use the tool by hand. Metal cuts slowly that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 You just use the Mark 1 eyeball caliper. Make them look all the same. Not too critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) ( credit goes to bosshoss for the idea ) I chuck the bit and pilot bit into a drill press, do the 1st one by eye and then set the depth on the drill press , though - most the time I do them all by eye. Use lots and lots of cutting oil while cutting. Edited September 30, 2015 by alecmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I just sent my 929 cylinder to TK custom. Does anyone knows how aggressive their chamfering jobs are? On examples I have seen, it will not be anywhere near that aggressive, but that is just anecdotal. I suggest you send him the pic and tell him what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete627 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 ( credit goes to bosshoss for the idea ) I chuck the bit and pilot bit into a drill press, do the 1st one by eye and then set the depth on the drill press , though - most the time I do them all by eye. Use lots and lots of cutting oil while cutting. Thanks for the tip ... I worry when I have to use my Mark 1 eyeball caliper cause it is about as accurate as my shooting ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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