Onepocket Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Do you like the scoring system? Is it a good representation of who was the best shooter in the match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk18 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I like the blend of forcing accuracy and not just speed, as well as penalizing errant shots, there's some voodoo about it sometimes where the best shooter(or the one who shot best) is sometimes not reflected. Maybe it's just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 I think speed counts way to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Speed would count more if there was only a minor power floor, but the system is an illusive blend of power (by points awarded), accuracy and speed. But as I like to say, DVC, but mostly C.... No use to worrying about the scoring, USPSA will not change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTK Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Action Shooting Sports = Move & Shoot (Speed) IPSC USPSA 3 Gun Cowboy Action Wild Bunch Bowling Pin & Etc Accuracy Shooting Sports = Stand in the same place and shoot (Bullseye) (NRA Action Pistol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 speed counts way too much. What do you propose? All accuracy? Only Power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Just shoot faster and then you will think accuracy counts way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 This is in theory only. 9x45 I'm not worried just Curious on people's thoughts on the subject. Punish people for missing more, mikes -30. Make No shoots count more also. So you can shoot as fast as you want, missing will just be more painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'm fat and old I can't go any faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Try steel shoots - very little, if any, movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 I was just kidding about the fat and old thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryFive0 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I think the system works pretty good. HF is just points scored per second, so of course speed counts. Then whoever shoots that particular stage the best (speed and points both considered) earns more points. Misses and no shoots count plenty in my opinion. If you don't think so then find a shooter that is very close to your skill level. The guy you go back and forth with every match. I would wager the one with more misses and no shoots looses, regardless of time. I think one major key to accepting the scoring is knowing exactly who you are competing with. If you are a B shooter that shoots clean but a M shooter has one miss and beats you for the match, then he is just better. His other stages were probably much much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Do you like the scoring system? Is it a good representation of who was the best shooter in the match? Yes, because scoring 9mm and .40 in the same category is just silly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I like the stage points system. If you blow a single stage in a USPSA match, it doesn't effect your whole match in the same way it would in a time plus scoring system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Trust me Pat I sure don't want time plus scoring system. That's just plan sucks. Angry five-o your not a cop anymore so why are you still angry. I agree the better shooter will still come out ahead most of the time. I like to experiment at some matches and see if I shoot crazy fast dropping a ton of points how it turns out. I have learned a lot doing this! So would the highest hit factor for the match winning be the same as time plus scoring to y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Are you a Vogel lover and this thread is because he didn't win nats. but could have with a match hit factor instead of a stage hit factor? Most people here like the scoring system in USPSA, if they didn't they would shoot IDPA. That may be the game you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Up your meds RJH this thread was a question. I didn't say I didn't like it. IDPA has so many rules and I'm not smart enough to remember them all. Some of you people can't talk about something without being angry about it. I like all the shooters about the same, not knowing any of them. But thanks anyway for your off subject comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Come on, not so harsh. It's a valid discussion. I shoot ICORE as well, a different scoring system does change how you shoot the game. Time plus is a marathon, USPSA is a series of sprints. The sprints are a lot more fun to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Onepocket, you said "I think speed counts way too much." That sounds to me like you don't like the scoring. Then you mentioned the match hit factor thing and it wasn't a big leap that I made. So I offered the suggestion of IDPA, which generally rewards accuracy over speed, I thought you would like it. I also don't know any of the big name shooters so we are in the same boat there. I always wonder why people are always wanting to change games that they play, as long as you know the rules/scoring and it is applied evenly , then play to win that game and have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundevil827 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Just answering the question that was asked? Yes, I like the scoring system, I think it makes sense. It's a fair blend of speed and accuracy, and I think most of the time (I can't think of an example of when it does not, but I'll admit it could be out there.) it get's it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm still trying to figure out a purpose for the "B" zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRodriguez Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) I liked the old single stack society scoring system. wish the WSSC would go back to it. the B zone was for possible ties. the person with more B's would settle the tie, I believe was the original intent. I'll do a little searching to try and find where I had read about it. I wish they would just make the head all A zone Edited August 12, 2015 by JohnRodriguez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Speed would count more if there was only a minor power floor, but the system is an illusive blend of power (by points awarded), accuracy and speed. But as I like to say, DVC, but mostly C.... Really? I would say the opposite. Speed would count more if there was only major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I liked the old single stack society scoring system. wish the WSSC would go back to it. the B zone was for possible ties. the person with more B's would settle the tie, I believe was the original intent. I'll do a little searching to try and find where I had read about it. I wish they would just make the head all A zone Has there ever been a tie for the overall match in the history of USPSA? It just doesn't seem plausible when scoring goes out 4 decimal places. I agree that the B zone is pointless. I think it should be worth 4 points in minor scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Why do they have a B zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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