beechnutbob Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I got one for touching my mag (on my belt) as I was firing the last shoot shooting strong hand. I knew it was my last shoot so was saving time on the reload. Was told you can't do that. I could not find anything in the rule book referring to that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechnutbob Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Shoot was supposed to read shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afoulk Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Depends upon your interpretation of this rule. 3.7 At no time is it permissible to fire while holding a magazine, speed loader/moon clip, or loose ammunition. Holding shall be defined as touching, grasping or supporting a magazine, speed loader/moon clip or loose ammunition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkeg Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Depends upon your interpretation of this rule. 3.7 At no time is it permissible to fire while holding a magazine, speed loader/moon clip, or loose ammunition. Holding shall be defined as touching, grasping or supporting a magazine, speed loader/moon clip or loose ammunition. No interpretation required. You can't fire a shot while touching a mag... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 ive been dinged for this before as well. PE is the right call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangin Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hate to say it but PE all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Depends upon your interpretation of this rule. 3.7 At no time is it permissible to fire while holding a magazine, speed loader/moon clip, or loose ammunition. Holding shall be defined as touching, grasping or supporting a magazine, speed loader/moon clip or loose ammunition. No interpretation required. You can't fire a shot while touching a mag... Yep. Now, whether or not it is a stupid rule is something different. (After all, if you can still get good hits at speed while touching whatever you like, what's the problem? Apparently there is one somewhere according to someone...) But yes---that's a no-argument PE there, straight from the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberiad Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'm guessing here but I suppose the idea is that most people wouldn't be trying to save time on a reload in a "real gunfight" by touching or grabbing a magazine. I know IDPA and "real life" have little to do with one another and I have no interest in debating whether a rule is stupid or not, as I said, it's just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afoulk Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Depends upon your interpretation of this rule . 3.7 At no time is it permissible to fire while holding a magazine, speed loader/moon clip, or loose ammunition. Holding shall be defined as touching, grasping or supporting a magazine, speed loader/moon clip or loose ammunition. Fixed it for me... It is both clear and stupid. My guess is it came from a safety concern (magazine in front of muzzle?), but the definition seems to overreach to address a competitive equity (gaming) concern. Edited March 31, 2015 by afoulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcb Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 IDPA the most un-game of games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickB Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm guessing here but I suppose the idea is that most people wouldn't be trying to save time on a reload in a "real gunfight" by touching or grabbing a magazine. I know IDPA and "real life" have little to do with one another and I have no interest in debating whether a rule is stupid or not, as I said, it's just a guess. They wouldn't know that a reload was going to be needed. All of the reloading rules revolve around the expectation that in a "real gunfight", nobody would know when there's a round in the chamber but not one in the mag, that the shot you're about to fire is the last one before reloading, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig N Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 You just have to add the "tactical hover" to your bag of tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okorpheus Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I'm guessing here but I suppose the idea is that most people wouldn't be trying to save time on a reload in a "real gunfight" by touching or grabbing a magazine. I know IDPA and "real life" have little to do with one another and I have no interest in debating whether a rule is stupid or not, as I said, it's just a guess.They wouldn't know that a reload was going to be needed. All of the reloading rules revolve around the expectation that in a "real gunfight", nobody would know when there's a round in the chamber but not one in the mag, that the shot you're about to fire is the last one before reloading, etc.Trying to apply "why" questions is usually a loosing battle in IDPA. It's like trying to figure out why you need 7 men on the line of scrimmage in football instead of 6 or 8. It's just a game with rules.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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