Superpipe9 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Is the accu shadow or even the higher end accu shadow black worth the extra coin over the sp-01 shadow for uspsa production??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Is the accu shadow or even the higher end accu shadow black worth the extra coin over the sp-01 shadow for uspsa production??? No, buy a hipoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRevolutionIX Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Maybe not in the case of the mechanical accuracy differance. Most (to include myself) can never fully utilize the adherent benefit of the Accu in a match. What it does give you is confidence in your equipment. Before I switched to the Accu, I aways questioned the "mikes". Was it me? Was it the gun? My last platform on its best day could not even come close to the Accu on its worst. I now break down stages to suite the best possible plan rather than catering to my doubts in my gears accuracy. Maybe not a direct answer to the accu vs. SP-01 but hope this helps. Edited March 27, 2015 by MRevolutionIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 There's some great info here: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=188576&page=1 50 yard comparisons on page three. Is it worth it? That's up to you, I have worked over some SP01s I think would hold up in a Pepsi challenge against 90% of Shadows out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I think it's about $400-500 (?) in parts and knowhow to get something stock to very nice 'custom' equivalent with lighter DA/SA and short reset, IMHO _THAT_ IS worth the extra coin over stock for battling in Production, whether it's SP01 or SP01 Shadow. Beyond that, also IMHO: - SP01 Shadow is easier top end to work over / maintain vs SP01 - Accu gives you measurably tighter groups over non-accu with custom work, but both can be 10/10 in the A zone or steel at 25 yards if you do your part Edited March 27, 2015 by trgt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpipe9 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Sorry guys i meant this to be a sp-01 shadow vs accu shadow topic. I will not be buying the standard sp-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I think it's about $400-500 (?) in parts and knowhow to get something stock to very nice 'custom' equivalent with lighter DA/SA and short reset, IMHO _THAT_ IS worth the extra coin over stock for battling in Production, whether it's SP01 or SP01 Shadow. Beyond that, also IMHO: - SP01 Shadow is easier top end to work over / maintain vs SP01 - Accu gives you measurably tighter groups over non-accu with custom work, but both can be 10/10 in the A zone or steel at 25 yards if you do your part Now that I think of it, mechanical accuracy has never been a concern when I build my Shadows. I have only concentrated on ergonomics, sights, and the trigger/action of my CZ's.I was contemplating getting the Accu Shadow mods on my Single Action CZ's but the cost and lead time has prevented it thus far. Edited March 27, 2015 by himurax13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travtastik Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 When my accushadow black comes in I will let you know. Hopefully soon the wait is killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay1 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You can´t compare. In the CZ production, there comes a barrel, a slide and a grip, and they are sticked together just as they come, n´that´s it. So there is always some more or less play between barrel/slide and slide/grip. Maybe you are the lucky one, who has got the one of a hundred, or you didn´t. So you have shadows which do under 2" groupings on 25 yds., but may also have one which does above 4" on the same distance. I´ve shot and loaded for a lot of them. The grouping sheet which comes with the gun from the factory, gives you a pretty good idea, what the several pistol will be able to do. The Accu Shadow is a tuned version of a factory shadow, with all those things ligned up and fixed, if after that no difference is shown, nobody would ask or talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Maybe not in the case of the mechanical accuracy differance. Most (to include myself) can never fully utilize the adherent benefit of the Accu in a match. What it does give you is confidence in your equipment. Before I switched to the Accu, I aways questioned the "mikes". Was it me? Was it the gun? My last platform on its best day could not even come close to the Accu on its worst. I now break down stages to suite the best possible plan rather than catering to my doubts in my gears accuracy. Maybe not a direct answer to the accu vs. SP-01 but hope this helps. I agree 100%. I'd add that you certainly can work over one on your own for less money. I'm only a so-so shade tree gunsmith though and it was easier to spend the money on an accushadow than the time to change parts and polish on a stock gun. I haven't regretted it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Shadow is my practice gun ACCU shadow is my match gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpipe9 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Shadow is my practice gun ACCU shadow is my match gun This is basically what I was thinking. I already have a 2014 sp-01 shadow black and want to get a back up gun so I'm just deciding whether to get another 2014 sp-01 shadow black or get the accu shadow and turn my current one into the back up?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay1 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Shadow is my practice gun ACCU shadow is my match gun Do you mean, you train with another gun, that you are competing with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Shadow is my practice gun ACCU shadow is my match gun Do you mean, you train with another gun, that you are competing with? Yes, both are CZ Custom and beyond the ACCU, exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Is the accu shadow or even the higher end accu shadow black worth the extra coin over the sp-01 shadow for uspsa production??? I don't think paying 30% more will increase your scores by 30%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpipe9 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Is the accu shadow or even the higher end accu shadow black worth the extra coin over the sp-01 shadow for uspsa production??? I don't think paying 30% more will increase your scores by 30%. LOL!! Good point and very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Is the accu shadow or even the higher end accu shadow black worth the extra coin over the sp-01 shadow for uspsa production??? I don't think paying 30% more will increase your scores by 30%. only if all the targets are at 30% more distant :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think the ACCU is $350 extra, sure that sounds substantial, but how much is that compared to yearly costs like: Match fees Bullets Powder Primers Gas to and from matches Match hotel nights A gun is a commodity, especially a quality gun, it retains resale value. I'm constantly amazed at the places shooters try to "save" money, but then buy a bunch of fugly match shirts. I bought a Shadow and an ACCU Shadow, I now wish I'd bought 2 ACCU's Ok, I'm off my soapbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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