nitrohuck Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 So today I ran into a little conundrum while loading 300blk for the first time on my Dillon: I needed to have my powder measure in station 3 and that was impossible to do with the metal guide bar... I've attached a photo of what I did to fix my problem, I loaded up about 300 rounds of 300blk with seemingly no issues, but figured I should err on the side of caution and post this to hear opinions/knowledge. Is this quick fix too good to be true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 You may be able to replace the rubber band with the springs from Dillon. The old style powder measure used long coiled springs to get the powder bar to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I agree. You can replace the rubber with springs. Also, the lock link bellcrank rubs on the powder measure body and is designed to be pulled back by the safety rod.That's the rectangle shaped piece of the bellcrank. If you want this to be safe, you need to bend that metal away and rely completely on the springs for return. It will also be smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrohuck Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 I agree. You can replace the rubber with springs. Also, the lock link bellcrank rubs on the powder measure body and is designed to be pulled back by the safety rod.That's the rectangle shaped piece of the bellcrank. If you want this to be safe, you need to bend that metal away and rely completely on the springs for return. It will also be smoother. that's sorta the idea with the ziptie there, to hold the bellcrank out of the way so that the bar and measure can freely move up/down, back/forth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Your just taking out the failsafe. Making it like the old Dillon measures except for one point. The spring went around the base of the measure itself. Sooner or later your rubber band is going to work the plastic pin loose and the spacer will fall out and you will have made your own powderfall. Edited November 10, 2014 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrohuck Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Your just taking out the failsafe. Making it like the old Dillon measures except for one point. The spring went around the base of the measure itself. Sooner or later your rubber band is going to work the plastic pin loose and the spacer will fall out and you will have made your own powderfall. Aha, okay so I will put in a call to dillon and ask for the springs then, don't want to break off that plastic pin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Your just taking out the failsafe. Making it like the old Dillon measures except for one point. The spring went around the base of the measure itself. Sooner or later your rubber band is going to work the plastic pin loose and the spacer will fall out and you will have made your own powderfall. Aha, okay so I will put in a call to dillon and ask for the springs then, don't want to break off that plastic pin Until then, just loop your rubber band around the bottom of the powder funnel to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leewongfei Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Your just taking out the failsafe. Making it like the old Dillon measures except for one point. The spring went around the base of the measure itself. Sooner or later your rubber band is going to work the plastic pin loose and the spacer will fall out and you will have made your own powderfall. Aha, okay so I will put in a call to dillon and ask for the springs then, don't want to break off that plastic pin No, do not ever break that pin. Powder is to scarce to have it spill all over the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Think Brian has the springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Think Brian has the springs. I got my springs from Brian. I run two for each powder measure I have. Guarantees the positive return of the powder bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanzbullet Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It is so much smoother without the fail safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tires2burn Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This is what works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I got my springs from Brian. I run two for each powder measure I have. Guarantees the positive return of the powder bar. My first two Dillons relied on two spring to return. Apparently they didn't guaranty positive enough return for a lot of folks and they came out with the failsafe. I never had problems with the old ones though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 It probably has been discussed before: Which system throws more consistent loads? I can kind of imagine the "clunk" helps settle extruded powders a bit just like the vibrating contraptions some have strapped to the powder measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I never noticed a difference from either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnm45 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 This is what works for me. So, what exactly is the "fix" that works for you, I can't tell exactly. Looks to be a piece of elastic tubing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tires2burn Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I didn't like the failsafe and used some tubing and a half piece of chain link to return the powder bar. That's the fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Any idea on the dimensions of the Dillon springs? I can't imagine ACE hardware not having something very close.?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tires2burn Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The springs were before my time so cant help you there. This surgical tubing works great and is quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan550 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Any idea on the dimensions of the Dillon springs? I can't imagine ACE hardware not having something very close.?... Wire diameter on mine is .020", OD of the spring is .125", OAL is 5.050". Use 2 of them for the original fitting usage. Mine date back to the mid '80s! Alan~^~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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