RJH Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 As I have gotten older my vision has remained good but the recoil even from the 9mm hurts my hands by the end of a match. So I was thinking that maybe production comp would be a good idea for people that have trouble with recoil. What do the Enos people think. Rules would stay the same otherwise just add a barrel and comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Here we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! We just went through all of this with production optics. It got the boot by the BOD, and rightfully so. But Production comp? Just put a comp on it and run open minor. That way you can load the mags all the way up too. This way if your eyes fading as well you can even stick a dot on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Ammo Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Wouldn't be interested in the comp for production. You can always shoot in the division that allows the comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just shoot open. That is what the rule book says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 If 125pf loads are bothering your hands, rimfire might be your best option, a comp isn't going to do anything unless you get up around 140-150pf. If I were you I'd shoot an Open Buckmark for no score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 If 125pf loads are bothering your hands, rimfire might be your best option, a comp isn't going to do anything unless you get up around 140-150pf. If I were you I'd shoot an Open Buckmark for no score. They don't work at all until then? Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-shot Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Y'all probably just got straight trolled. GG op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Yep. "Don't feed the trolls." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealkoop Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think we should get a production hi-cap division. I like to shoot. Reloading is f*#king stupid and annoying, but I cant afford to shoot open. Same rules as production, but you get to use 140mm mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 If 125pf loads are bothering your hands, rimfire might be your best option, a comp isn't going to do anything unless you get up around 140-150pf. If I were you I'd shoot an Open Buckmark for no score. They don't work at all until then? Why is that? Super Dude, I've tried lots of comp designes and haven't shot one yet that does squat below that point, have you? Maybe with a whole case full of really slow powder like SP3, but either way it's not going to be more gentle that 9 minor with Titegroup and a 147 is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Based on what aging friends with hurting hands and elbows tell me, shooting minor power factor loads in Open and Limited guns is about as gentle as you can get -- unless you can download even more for steel..... They tell me there's essentially no difference in shooting production -- as in the Open/Limited guns aren't any softer -- so I can't see the benefit to adding a comp..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't see other competition shooters using gloves, but it might not be a bad idea for you. If it's only your hands that bother you, a nice padded fingerless pair of gloves would lighten the impact from recoil. I use them for the Desert eagle 50AE and 44mag. They should work wonders on a 9mm. Is there a reason that your hands hurt? ie arthritis? Some hand strengthening exersizes might help as well. You might try a softer set of grips on the gun. What gun are you shooting and what load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 What gun are you shooting? My all steel CZ feels like a cap gun shooting minor 147's. I don't remember if Production has a weight limit. Find nice heavy gun and shoot heavy bullets. With a reamed barrel so you can shoot long loads, you can probably shoot 160s at 800 fps out of a 43 oz gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) You could check out the Production approved gun list on the USPSA web site (uspsa.org) and choose a heavier gun in 9mm. But that might be an issue because it's, well, heavier. OTOH, it could be that the physical stresses of carrying, quickly drawing, manipulating, swinging, firing, reloading, and moving about with a heavy metal object that recoils every time you shoot it might be a bit much for your physical condition. Edited November 9, 2014 by teros135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Oh . . . my . . . gawd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Consider switching games to Steel Challenge. My Steel Challenge load is 101 PF and is near the rimfire world in terms of felt recoil ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think a super heavy limited gun shooting minor is the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 RJH, I was thinking the exact same thing! The recoil from a production gun is taxing over time. Just between the two of us, at local matches I shoot at about 105,000 PF because I know I can get away with it. Even still, after a 150+ round USPSA match I have to go home and soak my strong hand in epsom salt for two to three hours. Man, getting old is an exercise in humility. Higgins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just between the two of us, at local matches I shoot at about 105,000 PF because I know I can get away with it. Higgins You realize there is no such thing as "just between the two of us" on an open forum right? Now we all know you cheat at local matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just between the two of us, at local matches I shoot at about 105,000 PF because I know I can get away with it. Higgins You realize there is no such thing as "just between the two of us" on an open forum right? Now we all know you cheat at local matches. Alleged cheater, there is no actual proof. I may be lying to to get attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just between the two of us, at local matches I shoot at about 105,000 PF because I know I can get away with it. Higgins You realize there is no such thing as "just between the two of us" on an open forum right? Now we all know you cheat at local matches. Alleged cheater, there is no actual proof. I may be lying to to get attention. I tend to avoid that kind of attention. So now you are a cheater and a liar? Ooops, I mean alleged! My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Liar or cheater - either way, no credibility. Please stop fooling with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just between the two of us, at local matches I shoot at about 105,000 PF because I know I can get away with it. Higgins You realize there is no such thing as "just between the two of us" on an open forum right? Now we all know you cheat at local matches. Alleged cheater, there is no actual proof. I may be lying to to get attention. I tend to avoid that kind of attention. So now you are a cheater and a liar? Ooops, I mean alleged! My bad We can't rule out incompetence either. I am not very good with numbers. They get all jumbled up. It felt like a good load though. Now that I think about it, it may have been 150,000 PF or maybe even 501,000 PF. I can't be sure. Sorry guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Your first step might be to start shoot 125PF, instead of 105,000PF That's like 840 times lower recoil so it should much easier on the old wrists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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