hysupra Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Has anyone taken the guts out of the jp buffer to make it even lighter? It feels like there is some kind of weights in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 there are spacers in there. If you want light, toss the buffer and superglue a quarter to the end of the buffer tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 If you take the spacers out of the J.P. light buffer you will have an A2 buffer without any weights in it! Rather than take apart an expensive part that folks would buy just gut a G.I. A2 buffer much cheaper and same end result. I wonder why J.P. wouldn't just run a gutted A2 buffer? Maybe because it needs the spacers??? Nah what do they know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D__ Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Huh? I'm trying both of these suggestions out. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D__ Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Sure you dont mean a carbine stock buffer Kurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) The LM JP buffer is rifle length. Pretty sure that Kurt was saying that you certainly could remove the guts of the JP buffer to further lighten it, but you would essentially be left with the same thing as if you removed all the guts from a standard A2 buffer less the sweet red anodizing. Must learn that Kurt oft speaks with a touch of sarcasm. Edited October 12, 2014 by wgj3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hysupra Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Are the weights needed for any reason? The tac com is a piece of derlin so I can't see how it would hurt to gut my jp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 it's cheaper to gut a 7 dollar A2 than a 50 buck jp. I ended up making a light weight one by gutting an A2 and replacing some of the metal spacers with plastic so it weights the same as a JP now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I removed 3 or 4 weights and added an empty .308 case to a rifle buffer so it didn't rattle as much. It weights 3.1oz., same as a JP if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 there are spacers in there. If you want light, toss the buffer and superglue a quarter to the end of the buffer tube. good god, this is a joke. wheres the "sarcasm" button? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 My rifle has been running flawlessly since I glued the quarter onto the end of my spring. Super glue did not work, but a glob of silicone caulk is holding just fine! I am going to silver solder them together after I finish my extensive reliability testing. I decided that since low mass bot carriers are dangerous and will get you killed on the streets, the only way to safely reduce reciprocating mass while still maintaining battle ready reliability was to remove the buffer and replace it with a quarter. Thanks for the tip, it cycles soo much faster now, and my muzzle rise is super small as well. I should have done this years ago! If anyone else would like to order my ultra high reliability low mass buffer kit I will be selling it for $18.42 plus S&H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I found that the single quarter could turn a bit and sometimes drag. What I found was to solder TWO quarters together with a nickel sandwiched in between, kind of like an hour glass, would eliminate the turn and run much smoother.....but that's just my 55 cents worth....a dime in between just felt opulent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 This is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Too much humor is never enough. There are a lot of folks who take this stuff far too serious. The entertaining thing is that this discussion is not new, and that we will be having it again in 6 months or less. I am waiting for my favorite recurring discussion to come back around, the I got's to shoot me some heavy bullets or I can't hit no targets past 100 yards discussion. The why would any jack wagon want a barrel longer that 16" is back and going right now. If not for the sarcasm and occasionally witty reply the BEnos multi gun forum would have dried up and blew away long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The ridiculous thing is that I get halfway through every post with a very confused look on my face before I realize you guys are full of it. Gets me every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 OK, this is my serious face, I wear it when I make a serious post.... If you want a lighter buffer you should give the Taccom a spin. It is cheaper than cutting up a JP reduced mass buffer, and pretty neat. Others have had good luck with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm no engineer but I feel like the dead blow effect of the standard buffer is there for a reason, that's why I haven't emptied out my buffer yet. I want to try the taccom even against my better judgement. Should be worth my 30 bucks just to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The dead blow effect is there for full auto firing and is not needed in a semi auto. So goes the theory.... Mick I'm no engineer but I feel like the dead blow effect of the standard buffer is there for a reason, that's why I haven't emptied out my buffer yet. I want to try the taccom even against my better judgement. Should be worth my 30 bucks just to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hysupra Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Thanks guys I'm going to the bank and getting the freshest quarter they have. Only the shiniest will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The dead blow effect is there for full auto firing and is not needed in a semi auto. So goes the theory.... Mick I'm no engineer but I feel like the dead blow effect of the standard buffer is there for a reason, that's why I haven't emptied out my buffer yet. I want to try the taccom even against my better judgement. Should be worth my 30 bucks just to see. Bingo Mick.......if the 'dead blow' of the buffer WAS needed for semi-auto......you'd see it on the Remmy 7400, the M1 Garand, Winchester 100, or any number of semi auto rifles and shotguns out there. The buffer....was developed for the M16....to help make sure the bolt would be closed before the hammer hit the firing pin. FYI.....the M16 is one of only a handful of closed bolt machine guns out there, but one of the highest cyclic rates for a closed bolt machine gun.....the AK, is another one, but the cyclic rate is sooooo slow that a dead blow buffer is not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Tim "Dead Blow" Ubl clears it right up. Hey got a quarter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Consider me enlightened. All kinds of knowledge on this forum. I've learned so much recently that I forgot how to tie my shoes. Just isn't any room left to store those old files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerflyer48 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I was thinking of using a few washers they being lighter than a quarter and the hole in the middle venting any air pressure so I can also eliminate the "air spring" effect Vented Lighweight Buffer replacement Disk maybe shorten it to VeLBR might whistle a bit though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop414 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Great...ATF is bad enough now Secret Service will want to pull your buffer and see if you have been tampering with US currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I found that the single quarter could turn a bit and sometimes drag. What I found was to solder TWO quarters together with a nickel sandwiched in between, kind of like an hour glass, would eliminate the turn and run much smoother.....but that's just my 55 cents worth....a dime in between just felt opulent! Opulent... can you take penicillin for that.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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