bosoxfan21 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Fairly new to USPSA and was wondering why there are two different divisions in limited. The only difference I see in the number of rounds one can have in each mag. Are there other differences? What makes someone choose one over the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 That is the only difference. Started out with the AWB I believe. Also happens to be a good division for people with guns that don't fit well in other divisions. (think double stack guns with relatively low round capability) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron169 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Also, it's a way for people in ban states like California to compete with heavily modified guns on am even playing field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosoxfan21 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 That makes sense. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 L10 is actually a good division. Makes you think a little more (planning reloads), and there aren't too many people, myself included, who wouldn't benefit from some more reloading practice. Plus if your carry or duty weapon is a .40, you're probably more competitive in L10 than against all the 9mm's in Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 That is the only difference. Started out with the AWB I believe. Also happens to be a good division for people with guns that don't fit well in other divisions. (think double stack guns with relatively low round capability) ....or single stack guns not based in the 1911 design, shooting major power factory ammo out of 8-10 round mags..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 If you live in a free state L-10 is for hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Adams Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 If you live in a free state L-10 is for hiding. Pffffttt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnar897 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 If you live in a free state L-10 is for hiding. Pffffttt... I am returning to limited after about a 3yr break and finding I want a more challenging environment so I can get back up to speed. I am thinking L10 would require up to 3 mag changes per stage and a more detailed stage break down(another area I am lacking in). Locally, our club has 6 stages per month. So I could have a potential 18 mag changes on the clock in L10 vs. 6 in limited and have to think about the path a lot more. Generally, when shooting limited there is only one mag change and a choice of path. I think L10 would ultimately make you a better limited shooter after you spend some time there. Are there fewer "free state" competitors in L10?......yes. Is it a place to hide?.... I have to agree with davsco. Its what you make of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Look at the results from Area 8 in Limited compared t L-10 and then tell me that they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercster Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Come to Canada where having 10 rounds feels incredible if you are accustomed to shooting Standard in IPSC with a 1911. Ten rounds is the ceiling here and so we learn to reload more often regardless of division and get good at it. It's the same with the shotgun boys as we are limited to five rounds in SA guns. Our American cousins unaccustomed to the requirements of more frequent mag changes and the planning required suffer a tad when shooting under our rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Just looked for Area 8 scores on USPSA and don't see them. Where do you find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If you live in a free state L-10 is for hiding. All divisions (and classes) are for hiding. Look at the overall results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Just looked for Area 8 scores on USPSA and don't see them. Where do you find them? https://www.practiscore.com/results.php?uuid=A4066741-E5BE-4DCC-9B94-A5AD3FE48F87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Just man up and shoot Production .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Or look @ Area 4 results, probably about the same difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Look at the results from Area 8 in Limited compared t L-10 and then tell me that they are the same. Do you all the B class shooters (including the div winner) in L-10 vs all the GMs and Ms in L? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Damn fat fingers. Edited September 2, 2014 by remoandiris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Look at the results from Area 8 in Limited compared t L-10 and then tell me that they are the same. I don't think there is an argument that Lim and L10 are "the same". They have the same equipment profile and Major PF but different mag capacity. Limited clearly has fewer mag changes and more options for how to run the course; L10 gets you more stage planning (like Production). It's a lot about what you want to do with the equipment you have. I know folks who have Sig P220s who could run in Prod, L10, or Limited and choose L10 because of the Major power factor and 8-rd mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If you live in a free state L-10 is for hiding. I'm sorry, I don't get it - hiding from what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosoxfan21 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 My original thought was why someone would shoot L10 instead of Limited. I hadn't thought about states that don't allow more than 10 rds and guns that hold less. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmj3 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 L10 is actually a good division. Makes you think a little more (planning reloads), and there aren't too many people, myself included, who wouldn't benefit from some more reloading practice. Plus if your carry or duty weapon is a .40, you're probably more competitive in L10 than against all the 9mm's in Production. Minor 40 loads can be competitive in production - no big disadvantage there IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 The winner of Limited finished quite a ways ahead of winner of L-10 @ area 8. However, L was a GM and L-10 was a B, perhaps not a great example considering the assumed difference in skill level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Area 4 had about the same spread, but, again there was a GM in L and a B in L-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm no fan of L-10, but comparing overall scores of Limited vs. Limited-10 is like comparing apples and bananas 21-22 round mags vs. 10 rounders Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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